The GT2 come "wink wink" massively undertuned. They are designed from the ground up to be as close as possible to a true street legal sports car.

 

I cant believe this is still going!

 

LACR is absolute mess of a track to run at. 11.9@123 is very respectable there.

 

LOL!!!!

being that this is a porsche board, of course there are many elitists

 

I just dont get it, i LOVE BMW and i LOVE PORSCHE. But how are people going to argue that BMW is just as much of a sports car out of the box as comparable Porsche's?!?!?!?

 

+1...........

 

A stock CSL, which means it's running on R-compound tires (MPSC). That's worth at least 5 secs. right there, could be a bit more. The 996 GT2 was on street tires (Pirelli PZero Rosso, I believe), and it's the Mk1 version, not the slightly more powerful Mk2.

 

The M3 CSL was indeed on MPSC's, the CSL is awesome though, i love that damm car and M3's in general!

GT2 for an MK1 is very quick, wow, and street tires for a GT2 are Michelin PS1's

 

Well you showed me yours, so here is what I have. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...11%20Turbo.jpg

I am told that it is one of the healthier running basic mod TTs. Remember, chip, exhaust and intake only. Running a pump flash on 91 octane. 80 degree day.

LACR is a BAD track at altitude. Very slippery and the dust that blows all the time in the desert is no help. Your times are very good considering.

I have driven my M3 at Willow back to back with a 996 (non turbo) and can tell you that even a stock Porsche has so much more turn-in.

Anyhoo. I think anyone that has owned an M3 has come away thoroughly impressed.

 

 

PSSHHHHHT! It is time to let all of the hot air out of this thread. I'm new to this forum and I can't believe this thread is this long. I'm gonna love this place!

 

Wow. Is this information from a reputable source? Sorry for my ignorance but I find it amazing that the fastest one around the track is the GT2. Or even still, that the M3 CSL is on par with the Murcielago and the M3 is faster than the RS4 around the track?

EDIT: Noticed that the CGT is the fastest around.

 

I just dont understand how a CSL is 32 seconds faster than a regular m3, what's up with that?

 

er... that list is from germany's SPORT AUTO. with all due respect, its pretty difficult to come up with sources more respectable and reputable than that, where Euro supercars and roadcourses are concerned.

they're the only publication i know that maintains a database of laptimes at two very distinct types of tracks-- Hockenheim for a short track, and the Nordschleife, which as we know is the daddy of all tracks.

they employ some heavy hitter drives too, so no worries about the cars not being driven at their limits.

 

Wait, wait, wait... I take it back.

These guys need to go over to Viper Alley and tell them to beware M3s making PSHHH sounds.