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I hate to dig up an old thread, but it's on the same subject so here goes.
With all the recent ethanol present in today's fuels, have you noticed any issues using this blended fuel? I've noticed my 94 Accord doesn't like it, and am curious if I should take extra measures to get pure fuel for my 2005 Boxster.
With all the recent ethanol present in today's fuels, have you noticed any issues using this blended fuel? I've noticed my 94 Accord doesn't like it, and am curious if I should take extra measures to get pure fuel for my 2005 Boxster.
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I hate to dig up an old thread, but it's on the same subject so here goes.
With all the recent ethanol present in today's fuels, have you noticed any issues using this blended fuel? I've noticed my 94 Accord doesn't like it, and am curious if I should take extra measures to get pure fuel for my 2005 Boxster.
With all the recent ethanol present in today's fuels, have you noticed any issues using this blended fuel? I've noticed my 94 Accord doesn't like it, and am curious if I should take extra measures to get pure fuel for my 2005 Boxster.
Anyone else?
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Plus 1 for mbodo post #12.
Here in Florida any station can sell any brand of gasoline. In other words if you are Shell station you could be selling Hess gasoline. The only way to be sure if you are getting Shell V-Power gas is to buy from a company owned station. The state only checks on the volume sold, the octane and ethanol content.
To check if your gas has ethanol try this:
Add 9 parts of gas & 1 part of colored water (use food coloring) into a test tube or other graduated cylinder/bottle.
Shake it up & the ethanol & colored water will become one.
If you now have 25% "colored water" (15% C2H5OH + 10% H20) you have 15% ethanol in your gas.
Here in Florida any station can sell any brand of gasoline. In other words if you are Shell station you could be selling Hess gasoline. The only way to be sure if you are getting Shell V-Power gas is to buy from a company owned station. The state only checks on the volume sold, the octane and ethanol content.
To check if your gas has ethanol try this:
Add 9 parts of gas & 1 part of colored water (use food coloring) into a test tube or other graduated cylinder/bottle.
Shake it up & the ethanol & colored water will become one.
If you now have 25% "colored water" (15% C2H5OH + 10% H20) you have 15% ethanol in your gas.
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Our pumps are required by state law to say if they have ethanol in them, so finding that out is pretty easy. My real concern is if usage will have a long term effect. I need to do a search to see if there are any bottled additives out there like what came about for the leaded cars when everything went unleaded. That means there's probably some sort of issue from running ethanol blended fuel.
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I ran gas with 10% ethanol in my '01 Boxster for 8 years without any noticeable detrimental effects. Four years in the '07 997 and again no noticeable issues. Porsche is OK with up to 10% ethanol. Anything above that, E 85 for instance is not recommended for our cars.
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Great info! Thank you!
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Just a heads up for you High Compression kids...Heres a few 100 octane stations in So Cal area.
Huntington Beach Car Wash
18971 Beach Blvd.
Huntington Bch. (714) 847-4924
(Verified $5.89 100 Octane Pump)
Graham 76 Service
2690 San Miguel Rd.
(405 to 73 New Port to Mac Aurthur Left Anita, Right Prarie in Pavillion Shopping Center)
Newport Bch., CA (949) 644-7151
(Verified $5.49 100 Octane Pump as of 3-1-06)
Theres also a 76 station with it off the 5 exit Crown Valley by the Best Buy...not sure what the address is.
Kern County
Fastrip Gas
8001 White Lane
Bakersfield 661.835.1490
100 Octane
Mesa Marin Raceway
SR 178 at SR 184
Bakersfield 661.366.5711
110 Octane
Willow Springs Motorsports Park
3500 75th Street West
Rosamond 661.256.2471
100, 110 Octane
Los Angeles County
Irwindale Speedway
1330 E. Liveoak Ave
Irwindale 626.358.1100
100, 110 Octane
Brentwood 76 Service
12037 San Vicente Blvd
Los Angeles 310.476.9496
100 Octane
Pico Ave. 76 Service
11675 Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles 310.479.9496
100 Octane
Arroyo Parkway 76
155 E. Glenarm
Pasadena 626.441.3392
100 Octane
Phillips Ranch 76
16 Village Loop Rd
Pomona 909.623.2429
100 Octane
Cosby Oil Co.
12902 E. Park St
Santa Fe Springs 562.946.4404
100, 110, 114, 118 Octane
Canyon Services
507 Entrada Dr
Santa Monica 310.454.2619
100, 110 Octane
South hills 76 Service
150 S. Citrus
West Covina 626.339.8018
100 Octane
Orange County
Mark's 76 Service
2043 Commonwealth
Fullerton 714.278.0986
100 Octane
Laguna Hills Auto Spa
25172 Cabot Road
Laguna Hills 949.770.8300
100, 110 Octane
Dave's 76 Service
619 E. La Habra Blvd.
La Habra 714.801.3918
100 Octane
Graham 76 Service
2690 San Miguel Blvd
Newport Beach 949.644.7151
100 Octane
San Diego County
Cosby Oil Co.
6220 Fairmount Ave.
San Diego 619.280.6884
100, 110, 114, 118 Octane
San Gabriel County
San Marino 76
2390 Huntington Drive
San Marino 626.286.6030
100 Octane
Riverside County
Mike's 76 Service
2807 Hamner Ave
Norco 909.734.2962
100 Octane
Ventura County
Agoura 76
28203 Dorothy Drive
Agoura Hills 818.991.6241
100 Octane
Huntington Beach Car Wash
18971 Beach Blvd.
Huntington Bch. (714) 847-4924
(Verified $5.89 100 Octane Pump)
Graham 76 Service
2690 San Miguel Rd.
(405 to 73 New Port to Mac Aurthur Left Anita, Right Prarie in Pavillion Shopping Center)
Newport Bch., CA (949) 644-7151
(Verified $5.49 100 Octane Pump as of 3-1-06)
Theres also a 76 station with it off the 5 exit Crown Valley by the Best Buy...not sure what the address is.
Kern County
Fastrip Gas
8001 White Lane
Bakersfield 661.835.1490
100 Octane
Mesa Marin Raceway
SR 178 at SR 184
Bakersfield 661.366.5711
110 Octane
Willow Springs Motorsports Park
3500 75th Street West
Rosamond 661.256.2471
100, 110 Octane
Los Angeles County
Irwindale Speedway
1330 E. Liveoak Ave
Irwindale 626.358.1100
100, 110 Octane
Brentwood 76 Service
12037 San Vicente Blvd
Los Angeles 310.476.9496
100 Octane
Pico Ave. 76 Service
11675 Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles 310.479.9496
100 Octane
Arroyo Parkway 76
155 E. Glenarm
Pasadena 626.441.3392
100 Octane
Phillips Ranch 76
16 Village Loop Rd
Pomona 909.623.2429
100 Octane
Cosby Oil Co.
12902 E. Park St
Santa Fe Springs 562.946.4404
100, 110, 114, 118 Octane
Canyon Services
507 Entrada Dr
Santa Monica 310.454.2619
100, 110 Octane
South hills 76 Service
150 S. Citrus
West Covina 626.339.8018
100 Octane
Orange County
Mark's 76 Service
2043 Commonwealth
Fullerton 714.278.0986
100 Octane
Laguna Hills Auto Spa
25172 Cabot Road
Laguna Hills 949.770.8300
100, 110 Octane
Dave's 76 Service
619 E. La Habra Blvd.
La Habra 714.801.3918
100 Octane
Graham 76 Service
2690 San Miguel Blvd
Newport Beach 949.644.7151
100 Octane
San Diego County
Cosby Oil Co.
6220 Fairmount Ave.
San Diego 619.280.6884
100, 110, 114, 118 Octane
San Gabriel County
San Marino 76
2390 Huntington Drive
San Marino 626.286.6030
100 Octane
Riverside County
Mike's 76 Service
2807 Hamner Ave
Norco 909.734.2962
100 Octane
Ventura County
Agoura 76
28203 Dorothy Drive
Agoura Hills 818.991.6241
100 Octane
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to add to what Mbodo said;
the east coast gets some of its gas from European refiners (especially when/if the gas did not meet EU requirements)
gulf coast can get gas refined throughout the Caribbean and South America. much of the Caribbean gas is made from Venezuelan or Mexican crude which is quite "sour". Delivery for this gas is usually ports such as Houston
a lot of gasoline is pipelined in from Canada
the point of all this is it is virtually impossible for the consumer to say who's gas you put in your car.
as far as fuel rating goes US, Canada, Brazil (others?) use AKI = (RON + MON)/2 while most of the rest of the world use RON only (higher number). using the AKI approach gives refiners flexibility in blending fuels which presumably help keeps the cost down but also meens that the quality might vary a lot from batch to batch
the east coast gets some of its gas from European refiners (especially when/if the gas did not meet EU requirements)
gulf coast can get gas refined throughout the Caribbean and South America. much of the Caribbean gas is made from Venezuelan or Mexican crude which is quite "sour". Delivery for this gas is usually ports such as Houston
a lot of gasoline is pipelined in from Canada
the point of all this is it is virtually impossible for the consumer to say who's gas you put in your car.
as far as fuel rating goes US, Canada, Brazil (others?) use AKI = (RON + MON)/2 while most of the rest of the world use RON only (higher number). using the AKI approach gives refiners flexibility in blending fuels which presumably help keeps the cost down but also meens that the quality might vary a lot from batch to batch
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