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jiossifi 09-17-2008 06:23 AM

Lowering Cayenne S
 
I have a 2005 Cayenne s and I am looking to lower it. The kits from H&R or Eibach only lower the vehicle by a little over an inch. Is this enough? I have a lot of space between my wheels and wheel wells. My experience from lowering other vehicles was that a little over an inch was barely noticable. Can anyone please advise? Also what spring manufactures might I also look at and the costs associated with install.
Thanks in advance.

ALPINE_997 09-17-2008 02:22 PM

Not going to be much of a difference. The only way to lower it the right way without PASM(AIR) is to use Coilovers. KW's have them.

emm2wc 09-18-2008 12:11 AM

Definitely go for KW coilovers. It not only gives the look, more imortantly it provides better handling.

stealthTT 09-18-2008 02:26 AM

I think they have the KW v3 for PC's. does anyone know how it feels with those intalled? better handlling I guess is normal, but does improve also the bumpy feeling that you have right now, or its worst?

emm2wc 09-18-2008 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by stealthTT (Post 2048069)
I think they have the KW v3 for PC's. does anyone know how it feels with those intalled? better handlling I guess is normal, but does improve also the bumpy feeling that you have right now, or its worst?

Actually, I have the KW V3 installed on my '08 Cayenne a couple of months back. The car can attack corner at higher speed with minimum body roll. As the bound and rebound are fully adjustable, the ride is much comfortable than the stock setup, especially in the rear axial.

stealthTT 09-18-2008 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by emm2wc (Post 2048073)
Actually, I have the KW V3 installed on my '08 Cayenne a couple of months back. The car can attack corner at higher speed with minimum body roll. As the bound and rebound are fully adjustable, the ride is much comfortable than the stock setup, especially in the rear axial.

this is a very good info, cause many coillover sistems will get you a bumpy ride which isnt confortable, for a car that it is not a track car. Many peoples from different forums with different cars are running these V3 models, and many are saying that these are very good, and way better than others producers have. For instance my other ride has a coilover system from Tein, and i can tell you that it ain't a confortable ride at all compared to what I have read about the V3. could you take some pictures of them installed? what about clearance? have you had any issues when installed them? and the last thing is: do they come with camber plates or they are designed to use the stock mounting plates (which you would have to remove from the stock suspension) ?
Funny, you might get us the first review on the KW v3 on Cayenne, cause afaik I havent read any review about how those works on Cayenne. :)

ALPINE_997 09-18-2008 07:37 AM

KW has always been good about valving the right settings to the car and just making a coilover the same for all. If I didn't have AIR I would have gone for these and a set of Turbo/GTS sways and call it a day. I think it would be as good as the GTS in a corner. I am not sure if as good with PDDC but perhaps comparable.

stealthTT 09-18-2008 08:21 AM

didn't knew that the GTS/Turbo have different sways.

Hsiang613 09-20-2008 01:17 AM

i have springs for sale if ur interested...

Victor Li 09-20-2008 09:53 AM

I am also looking forward to lower my 2009 Cayenne. But only changing the spring will not be good enough as it will only lower for 1 or 2 inches. But since my car is a brand new vehicle. I am still wondering if I should lower it by spring / coilovers

emm2wc 09-22-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthTT (Post 2048085)
this is a very good info, cause many coillover sistems will get you a bumpy ride which isnt confortable, for a car that it is not a track car. Many peoples from different forums with different cars are running these V3 models, and many are saying that these are very good, and way better than others producers have. For instance my other ride has a coilover system from Tein, and i can tell you that it ain't a confortable ride at all compared to what I have read about the V3. could you take some pictures of them installed? what about clearance? have you had any issues when installed them? and the last thing is: do they come with camber plates or they are designed to use the stock mounting plates (which you would have to remove from the stock suspension) ?
Funny, you might get us the first review on the KW v3 on Cayenne, cause afaik I havent read any review about how those works on Cayenne. :)

The installation was straight on, and will retain the the original camber plates. FYI I don't think the ride height is much an issue here, the KW V3 allows 35mm~70mm height adjustment on top of its physical size. The stand along KW coilover is about 6cm shorter than the Cayenne stock shock, so it allows you really drop the pepper.

I have not tested the Cayenne's air suspensions nor the GTS steel spring setup, I cannot comment their handling. To me, one of the main advantages of using KW V3 is the wide range bound and rebound adjustments to anyone's like. The pro tuned the setup well suited to my 20" rim/tyre combo, and he manipulated similar ride comfort to my in law's new Cayenne (22" Techart) as well. He commented the setup is as comfort as the air suspension, and handles par if not better than it. However, you can go off-road with the air suspension, but I doubt there is much clearance for the KW. If price is not an issue, KW V3 is a good choice to consider. :D

emm2wc 09-22-2008 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by ALPINE_997 (Post 2048184)
KW has always been good about valving the right settings to the car and just making a coilover the same for all. If I didn't have AIR I would have gone for these and a set of Turbo/GTS sways and call it a day. I think it would be as good as the GTS in a corner. I am not sure if as good with PDDC but perhaps comparable.

Did not know Turbo/GTS use different sways. Are they different to the one on baby Cayenne?:confused:

alex911s 09-22-2008 07:24 AM

I've used techart springs(made by Eibach) on my older Cayenne S.. it handles very well, but not very forgiving for the rear passengers..LOL Was going with Kw's at the time, but I upgraded to the Turbo..

ALPINE_997 09-22-2008 04:14 PM

I know from the older models the S has smaller sways than the Turbos and I am sure the updated models are not different. I will check on the parts to make 100% sure but I am curious as to this feature. I am into my car for a lot cheaper than most people were but I am not about to take a bath to get into a GTS. I was going to sell the CS but still debating. I go back and forth everyday. I just do not want to be like Alex :) How many Cayenne's have you been through? :)

alex911s 09-22-2008 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by ALPINE_997 (Post 2054489)
I know from the older models the S has smaller sways than the Turbos and I am sure the updated models are not different. I will check on the parts to make 100% sure but I am curious as to this feature. I am into my car for a lot cheaper than most people where but I am not about to take a bath to get into a GTS. I was going to sell the CS but still debating. I go back and forth everyday. I just do not want to be like Alex :) How many Cayenne's have you been through? :)


This is only my second one...

this yearhilarious

ALPINE_997 09-22-2008 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by alex911s (Post 2054494)
This is only my second one...

this yearhilarious

hilarious hilarious hilarious too funny. See if I get a GTS that would be equal to you for 2 this year. Then I would have to keep my damn X5 for my puppy that I do not want to be in the Cayenne because she likes to slober and scratch up the back area as she trys to stay planted when I make sharp turns. :)

lovethesport 09-28-2008 04:12 PM

what other options are available if price is an issue

stealthTT 09-29-2008 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by lovethesport (Post 2063386)
what other options are available if price is an issue

you can go with KW HLS, if price isn't an issue:) - as I first understood from your post, then I got it:

if price is an issue, i havent found any other producers like KSport lets say for these cars, but if ask me I WOULDN'T even think of using any other producer for a 2.5tone car, why? because TEIN FLEX on my other ride had cracked, and I payed a little less then for KW. If you look on may boards you will see that these are ultimate ones: the KW V3: affordable & confortable & performance. so my advice is dont be a guineea pig and test other products. the KW products have many hours of r/t tests.
GL.

lovethesport 09-29-2008 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by stealthTT (Post 2064043)
you can go with KW HLS, if price isn't an issue:) - as I first understood from your post, then I got it:

if price is an issue, i havent found any other producers like KSport lets say for these cars, but if ask me I WOULDN'T even think of using any other producer for a 2.5tone car, why? because TEIN FLEX on my other ride had cracked, and I payed a little less then for KW. If you look on may boards you will see that these are ultimate ones: the KW V3: affordable & confortable & performance. so my advice is dont be a guineea pig and test other products. the KW products have many hours of r/t tests.
GL.


your advise is absolute wisdom---------thank you

would you it is it better to pay 3000 more for pasm or go for kw instead----i am leaning towards kw rather than pasm only cause i dont want issues with air suspension

emm2wc 09-30-2008 12:04 AM

I have not tried PASM, but friends commented that the ride is similar to air suspension. You will not regret with KW.:D

Hsiang613 09-30-2008 03:19 AM

get the KW supension... it's worth the money...

quentin88 12-26-2008 07:27 PM

could you tell me the setting that you used on the kw v3. We have similar roads as you do in Taiwan

emm2wc 12-28-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by quentin88 (Post 2189611)
could you tell me the setting that you used on the kw v3. We have similar roads as you do in Taiwan

Hi!! Every KW V3 comes with a installation menu, and it shows the recommended setting for the vehicle. However, the good chassis engineer can fine tune the setting according to the alloy/tyre combo, and the road conditions you are using. If you cannot find the right pro to fine tune for you, you won't enjoy what V3 can do. :)

quentin88 12-29-2008 07:58 AM

Tks for the reply. Can you give me your setting for dampening and rebound so that I can have a basis for setting up the v3, since I cannot find any qualified persons here.

GMP Performance 12-29-2008 09:56 AM

If you need pricing on a set of Kw's or any other suspensions available feel free to call or email me. My contact info is in my signature :)

GMP Performance 12-29-2008 09:58 AM

http://www.gmpperformance.com/CFJFiles/GMP/12124.jpg

http://www.gmpperformance.com/CFJFiles/GMP/12125.jpg

This is our Cayenne lowered with H&R's on 22x10's

ATJONG 01-02-2009 08:45 PM

how much is the H&R springs for cayenne s ??
or anybody selling the used one ??
thanks !!!

littlecayennes 03-24-2009 03:18 PM

i just ordered a set of HR spring, hope it will feel better

stikystikyricky 03-24-2009 07:10 PM

Just got my set in on sat... Now im just trying to find a shop to install them.. :)

RickyStickers 03-28-2009 06:01 PM

I just finished putting in the 22" Technos, Roof Rails, Red Calipers, H&R Springs, Black Blinkers, Yellow Fog Covers...

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._2827347_n.jpg

meaker 03-28-2009 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by GMP - Matthew (Post 2192059)

Sweet looking ride but it's not getting low enough with the H&R. It needs the coilovers.

c1pinang 03-29-2009 11:18 AM

what kind of wheels are those Matthew GMP?

sempaipaul 10-19-2014 12:32 AM

Gentlemen,

Those of you that lowered on springs --- did you use the stock struts? If not --- what structs did you also upgrade to?

Thanks,
Paul


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