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Uh, is the battery really under the drivers seat?

Old Nov 23, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeL
you can swap steering wheels and disconnect the airbag without unplugging the negative on the battery. it will not explode in your face. just make sure you don't put the key in or if you and entry and drive, make sure its in the off position. if you turn the key so the accessories turn on, your air bag light with trigger and need resetting. Ive swapped steering wheels in bmw's, porsches, Mercedes etc. never once has an airbag blew in my face, just make sure u don't give the car power so you don't have to reset the airbag light.
I always questioned this as well... I didn't think they would just "go off" but remember reading somewhere to disconnect the battery. Of course they suggest that for a lot of things... maybe I'll give it a shot.

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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The supposed concern is a residual charge and sparking when you unplug it.

The side air bags were in the seats of my old Escape, I never unplugged the battery when I pulled them, and they never went off.

I always disconnect for the steering wheel though. The difference is that I can position myself out of the way for the seats but can not be out of the danger zone for the steering wheel.

I think its a very low risk, but I've witnessed one go off by accident and have no desire to be hit in the face by one that is not properly anchored.
 
Old Nov 24, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gnat
Actually it's a pretty smart place for weight distribution and center of gravity. Batteries aren't exactly light weight so being able to position that weight between the axles and as low as possible will have an impact on how the vehicle handles.

As far as the fire risk, it's actually much safer in the cabin than in the engine bay or trunk (near the gas tank). Car batteries have a very low risk of causing a fire. It's when they interact with other things (like fuel or other fluids) in an accident that is an issue. In the cabin it is more protected from such things.
+1....

Originally Posted by grohgreg
The under-seat battery is in fact offsetting the weight of the exhaust and DPF systems, which run beneath the passenger side. Battery can't go in the back of either the hybrid or the diesel, so it makes more sense to standardize the location.

Speaking of under the hood, perhaps you didn't notice the battery posts there either. If you ever have to use jumper cables, the + and - battery posts are remoted to the top of the driver side fender.
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Originally Posted by TTCarrera
Why is this a problem?
+1... Loads of good advice here
 
Old Nov 24, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Renaissance.Man

+1... Loads of good advice here
I wouldn't call it advice but more "defending" why they chose to put the battery there. That's great until you need to get to it.

I would have preferred it to be more accessible for this current project, and perhaps future projects... I do enjoy working on my own car and often disconnecting the battery is step one. Yes, I noticed the battery posts in the engine bay... great if you need to jump the car etc... beyond that not helpful for projects. Again, my S4 had the same thing, except the battery was easily accessible in the trunk.

Is it the end of the world? No... is it a pain in the ***? Yes.

In the 997 Turbo, the battery is dead center up front and very easy to get to. There are other places they probably could have put it, and I understand why they put it where they did, but to even say in the service manual "have your porsche technician mess with this thing only" is rather upsetting coupled with the manual not even showing any directions of how to get to it yourself. I could have used a picture... don't enjoy blindly going into a project.

In the end, I'll get the mod done (just a minor setback) and hopefully this discussion will help future people who chose to do things that need the battery disconnected, as I will post pictures of me getting to it and what it looks like.

If you want to continue to discuss the pro's of where it's at as well as the exception handling of the Cayenne, that's great as well but it doesn't help me.
 
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May I ask, whilst we are on the topic of batteries...

1. How long can you leave the battery for without driving? given even a disconnection is a pain in the ***
2. Maintainers i suppose will be equally pain in the *** to use in this situation?

I agree the position of the battery is very suboptimal. More than happy to sacrifice a few km/hr on a turn on my daily drive to have a more accessible battery.
 
Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ttmkii
May I ask, whilst we are on the topic of batteries...

1. How long can you leave the battery for without driving? given even a disconnection is a pain in the ***
2. Maintainers i suppose will be equally pain in the *** to use in this situation?

I agree the position of the battery is very suboptimal. More than happy to sacrifice a few km/hr on a turn on my daily drive to have a more accessible battery.
There is a switch under the seat to put it into a "storage mode" or travel mode... the dealerships get the Cayenne's with the switch in the off position and have to turn it on. Not sure what that's all about, must turn off some of the accessories. I never saw this switch, but then again I wasn't looking for it. You could always hook it up to a battery tender using the posts under the hood if you're thinking about charging, etc.

My other post shows my steering wheel swap and tackling unhooking the battery.
 
Old Dec 15, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Thanks m8, what do you mean by the posts under the hood?

Couldn't find the switch, and damn its hard to see without lifting the seat up.....
 
Old Dec 16, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ttmkii
Thanks m8, what do you mean by the posts under the hood?

Couldn't find the switch, and damn its hard to see without lifting the seat up.....
Well, if you ever need a jump or want to hook the battery up to a tender for storage, there are two posts in the engine bay that are + and - to attach things to.... so you don't have to go directly to the battery.

Would have been nice if there was a switch to shut it off as well...
 
Old Dec 16, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...g-battery.html

Originally Posted by DrVolkl
Is there any write ups on how to get to the damn battery? Is there any other way to disconnect the power system on this vehicle?

I've seen threads on other forums on how to get to the batter on the gen one Cayenne, but nothing on the new ones.

I'm trying to swap out my steering wheel with one from MACarbon and step one is disconnecting the battery to make sure the airbag doesn't deploy in my face.

Thoughts? Anyway around removing the drivers seat/etc?

The Porsche manual is not very helpful. Thanks guys.
 
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You realized you just linked my own thread. Thanks tho!
 
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Be careful of the wire harness under the seat. After reinstalling our driver window would not go down, probably better than not gong up! Also the passenger air bag light came on. Best to use wire wrap / zip ties to properly secure the harness.
 

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Originally Posted by DrVolkl
You realized you just linked my own thread. Thanks tho!
and a very nice thread it is
 
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