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Question about P21S Wheel Cleaning Gel (moe or Phil)

OK, I have some 19" OZ's on my car. There are in good shape, no curb rash or anything, but here is my problem. They have some brake dust that will not come off no matter how hard I try. I have some P21S wheel cleaner gel.
1) How long should I let the gel sit on the wheels?
2) Should I do it in the morning when the car is in my garage and the wheels are cold?
3) Should I use a brush before or after letting the gel sit.
4) Should i try that mothers powerball use a Menzerna Polish?

Just give me the best tips for very very stubborn brake dust, PLEASE.

If the brake dust is not coming off it is likely that it has etched the clear. Wheels don't generally clean up 100% in one step. It is generally a process of 3-5 steps. Each step taking off a bit of the grime that remains from the previous step.

Pull the rims off the car. This is so you can get at those area's easier.

Soak in p21s wheel gel. about 15 min.

Agitate with brush, or wheel pad. Spritz again.

Let soak 15 min.

Clean with wheel pad. or use a PC with 4 inch pads. Green lc will help.

Rinse off, This is key fully flush rinse the wheels.

Clay the rims using a mild-aggressive clay.

Wipe the rims with adhesive remover. This helps take care of those tar and goo spot.

Using the PC again with 4" white LC pad polish out with your favorite polish.

Seal with your favorite sealant.

Phil's Wheel Tutorial
[quote]The wheel write up.

Okay everyone here is a how to detail your wheels. I just got 4 new tires for my 20 inch BBS RS-GT's (Bridgestone RE050A's 255 30 20's)

Bought the tires from KMD Tuning (Mountainside, NJ) and got them mounted and balanced there earlier today. Props to Danny (the owner over there) apparently these were reversed lips and they were a royal pain!

Here are the products used:

3M adhesive remover

Plastic razor blade (to remove the adhesive from the weights)

3 buckets: one filled with soap and the other to rinse the wheels (it's about 25 degrees out tonight) and one to sit on [:D]

P21S Wheel Cleaner Gel Formula

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...nalcleaner.gif

Boars Hair Brush

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...eelbrushSM.jpg

Sponges

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...SpongesSM6.jpg

P21S Polishing Soap

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ishingsoap.jpg

Adam's Metal Polish 2

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...alPolish21.jpg

Menzerna FMJ

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/pyiu/FMJ32oz.jpg

Old Microfiber Towels (for buffing and drying the wheels)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0-16-6-mid.gif

Microfiber applicator pad

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...MFapps2lg1.jpg

Procedure:

1. Here is what I did first sprayed them all down with P21S Wheel Cleaner Gel formula. I let them all soak in it while I was working on the first wheel.

2. Got the soap bucket and the boar's hair brush started the brush the dirt and grime off the wheel.

3. After that was done I used the 3m adhesive remover to get rid of the bug/tar/leftover brake dust/grime and adhesive from the weights.

4. Rinsed off the wheels with a sponge.

5. Dried them good.

6. Used the P21S Polishing Soap on the clean wheel to polish them up lips, inner

wheel, face of the wheel.

7. Rinsed them down again with a sponge.

8. Dried the wheel good.

9. Polished the lips with Adam's Metal Polish 2

10. Used the Menzerna FMJ to seal up the inner wheels, face of the wheel, and

lips.

11. Repeat on the rest of the wheels.

Before:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../afterbbs8.jpg

Elasped time: 2 hours 30 minutes (including set up and clean up time)

Enjoy!

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Thank alot. Next weekend I am home with my tools I will do this. Does not sound like too bad of a process.

crazy1323, let me know if that all helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy1323 (Post 1583226)

If your wheels aren't in too bad of a shape, the easiest and most effective way to rid the etched brake dust is to clay. Use a mild clay like sonus extra fine. Wash the wheels first with the p21s wheel cleaner. Try to do this when it's not too cold. Products tend to work better if at a temprature not tto cold or too hot. Spray it on the wheels, aggitate with a soft horsehair wheel brush, and let stand for 5 minutes. Rinse and clay the wheels. Rinse and wash again with the p21s wheel cleaner. You can then asses what else needs to be done. Depending on the finish on your OZ wheels, you can polish using Menzerna Final Polish or Nano Polish by hand or by the powerball. I would then follow it up with zymol Metall. It's an excellent and safe way to further polish the wheels. You may also find that after claying, you can just use the zymol Metall and it will do the job. Then make sure you're cleaning the wheels weekly if a daily driver using the p21s wheel cleaner. Hope this helps.

I use to wax the wheels to avoid brake dust. Will the P21 remove all the wax?

p21s will remove some if not all of the wax. Probably your best bet will be to clean the wheels more frequently with car wash soap and water. Then continue on putting a layer of wax or sealant on the wheels every wash or every other wash.

sure thing let me know when you need more products. I'm assuming you got the last package already :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by frafoss (Post 1586418)

I use to wax the wheels to avoid brake dust. Will the P21 remove all the wax?

P21S wheel cleaner isn't aggressive enough to remove all the wax. It also depends on what was you're using. If you use rejex, it will be harder to remove since it's a polymer. If you apply a spray wax like zymol wheel coat, p21s wheel cleaner will probably take most of it off. But since the wheel coat is a spray-on and walk-away spray, you shouldn't be too concerened about waxing the wheels all over again. It takes about 30 seconds to wax all 4 wheels.