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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Straight line and lap times the CS is faster...not even close..
http://www.fastestlaps.com/index.php...=459a87e123ac0
 
Old Aug 7, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 996TTDave
---So i can go to bed knowing that i witnessed, on video, a stock 360 F1 out run...TWO... challenge stradales, and yes, no one can question me on that again... not even you slugger...
Too early for bed, Dave, unless this thread has worn you down.

However, I am surprised that so many think that a 360 can't challenge a CS!

Remember that there is a great deal involved in marking a more expensive vehicle, and part of that is creating an illusion of one upmanship.

I am suggesting that a CS, eventhough it has a little more HP and in reality only slightly lighter than a 360 when fluids are added, could be very close to the capability of a 360.

I don't think that' so hard to believe that a 360 could exceed a CS.
 
Old Aug 8, 2008 | 03:47 AM
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 996TTDave
Never, did i say, i believe it - i'm telling you what i saw - go ahead... watch the video (if you can actually figure out how to download it) - i'm merely playing the advocate, in hopes of finding out how this happened

This isn't a made up story champ, there is (read slowly) actual footage, of such an act happening

So i can go to bed knowing that i witnessed, on video, a stock 360 F1 out run...TWO... challenge stradales, and yes, no one can question me on that again... not even you slugger...
I would take these videos with a grain of salt. Had you been on the freeway last week, you would have seen a Subaru WRX outrun my Stradale. Not because it is a faster car, but because I wouldn't race him no matter how hard he tried. In the real world and with amateur drivers, the Stradale and 360 are probably a close match. With both cars in the right hands, the Stradale would clearly win.
 

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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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A 360 dynoing at 305whp is pathetic, you can get that out of a S54 (M3) engine with some simple mods.
 
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kaz555
A 360 dynoing at 305whp is pathetic, you can get that out of a S54 (M3) engine with some simple mods.
That was a worst case though. Most dyno higher, I have seen it, either way comparing a modded M3 engine to that is apples to oranges IMO.
 
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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anyone wanna just post this vid up on youtube?!?

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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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I thought the CS was quite a bit faster than a 360 - like 997GT3 fast - if this is not the case, I may not really want a CS. It would be sad if my sports car couldn't keep up with my sedan in a straight line.
 
Old Aug 24, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Fidd
I thought the CS was quite a bit faster than a 360 - like 997GT3 fast - if this is not the case, I may not really want a CS. It would be sad if my sports car couldn't keep up with my sedan in a straight line.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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finally finished dl'ing torrent after an effin week and that clip almost made me cry haa....cs still remains my idol
 
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 996TTDave
Here's an interesting one:

In the current thread in the off-topic section of the forum, there is a thread going around

Ford GT Pursuit: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...t-pursuit.html

That clip is taken from a video called Super Speeders 3 - Well i was able to find Super Speeders 2 online: http://www.mininova.org/tor/496711

In Super Speeders 2 - A 2000 360 Modena (F1) races, not one, but two, different Challenge Stradale's on the highway, and wins against both of them but a fairly good margin

They decided to dyno the 360 and it comes to 333 RWHP, which figuring an 18% drivetrain loss, comes out to 390HP (10 down from Ferrari's 400 figure) and weighs in at 3170lbs.

A CS weighs around 2800lbs. and has 420hp - vs. a 3170lbs. and 390hp car, the CS should dominate...

Any thoughts?

doesn't the CS have several shifting and launch modes? I remember an old friend/CS owner telling me he would only get 4 launches out of teh clutch in the full race launch mode. The CS does have a much improved F1 system, but in amateur hands I think straight line times would be similar. Although there's no clutch, there is some finess to driving them properly and to their full potential.
 

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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kaz555
A 360 dynoing at 305whp is pathetic, you can get that out of a S54 (M3) engine with some simple mods.

"You can buy speed and you can buy HP, but you can't buy style or class"
-me.

Give me enough money and I can make a breadtruck outperform a Ferrari. You don't buy a Ferrari to be the fastest or have the most HP. A Corvette is always a better buy if that's all you want. Then you've got older used cars with aftermarket mods. A slighlty modified 1994 TT Toyota Supra can put out 500 HP and easily beat a Ferrari around the track for a total price of $30,000; the $ vs. POWER vs. PERFORMANCE equation doesn't apply here.

You buy a Ferrari for the entire lifestyle experience (not that I agree with it mind you)...but a BMW/Corvette/Supra/etc/etc can't do the one thing a Ferrari does almost everytime; get a girls panties wet at the stop light regardless of the tool sitting behind the wheel (no offense to owners on here who are the 10% exception).
 
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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^^^LOL - awesome post - I'm putting my Subaru STi license plate bracket on my CS when I get it - just so that I am not mistaken for a d***head.
 
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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