GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

Which to buy: Noble or 996 GT3?

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
nobles breaks often.
all the one's i see on track are broken or overheated by afternoon.
GT3, you just drive.

if you li ke to drive, get gt3
if you like to fix things, buy noble.
DITTO! I was rather infatuated with the Noble until I saw the attrition rate at the track. 100%!
 
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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... Now I'm not sure if I should get a 996 or 997 GT3.
IMO, for a pure track experience, the 6GT3; for all-around performance and street driving, the 7GT3. I've been off and on about selling my '04 SY GT3 for some time now since I am no longer tracking it. I was leaning toward a 997S, but (think) I've settled on moving to a 7GT3 if the price differential between the 996 and the 997 approximates $20K (or I win the Lottery). Right now, it's at $50K, which is a premium I'm not willing to pay. (Then, of course, there's always the TT route since I'm looking for more of a GT experience in my old age. )
 
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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I own a porsche take this for what its worth. The Noble is a faster car around the track and in a straight line. The noble is lighter as well. You can also pull another 50 hp out of the nobles stock turbos by upping the boost by simple boost controller. This puts a roughly 2100-2200lb car at 500bhp. That would SMOKE a gt3 in every way. Im sorry, but the porsche is outclassed and overpriced vs the noble. an absolute shame
 
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Originally Posted by Denis GTPRO
I own a porsche take this for what its worth. The Noble is a faster car around the track and in a straight line. The noble is lighter as well. You can also pull another 50 hp out of the nobles stock turbos by upping the boost by simple boost controller. This puts a roughly 2100-2200lb car at 500bhp. That would SMOKE a gt3 in every way. Im sorry, but the porsche is outclassed and overpriced vs the noble. an absolute shame
996-3 overpriced??? at $70K???

you must not be factoring in an on call tow truck for every track day or a tow vehicle and trailer for the Noble that actually gets tracked regularly...

Also, please consider reselling the noble... the used ones on this board seem to sit around for a while...

I do not doubt the performance claims for the noble you mentioned though.

So what is a reasonable noble price -- used with say 7500 miles?
 
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Originally Posted by PJS
996-3 overpriced??? at $70K???

you must not be factoring in an on call tow truck for every track day or a tow vehicle and trailer for the Noble that actually gets tracked regularly...

Also, please consider reselling the noble... the used ones on this board seem to sit around for a while...

I do not doubt the performance claims for the noble you mentioned though.

So what is a reasonable noble price -- used with say 7500 miles?
AN M400 just sold for 53k

I always wanted one, BUT, after reading overheating issues and crazy stories where brake lines were being melted and cut through, not for me.
 
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Originally Posted by PJS
996-3 overpriced??? at $70K???

you must not be factoring in an on call tow truck for every track day or a tow vehicle and trailer for the Noble that actually gets tracked regularly...

Also, please consider reselling the noble... the used ones on this board seem to sit around for a while...

I do not doubt the performance claims for the noble you mentioned though.

So what is a reasonable noble price -- used with say 7500 miles?
70K is VERY reasonable in my opinion. The noble uses a ford ecotech engine that is fully built by the rousche treatment. The engine is BULLETPROOF. Overheating is a new issue to me. The cars are designed for buisness. I Love them with a passion. A TRUE drivers car without all the markup that a porsche carries. Im sorry guys, if nobles were sold in the US I would defect. I love working on them and driving them
 
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Denis GTPRO
70K is VERY reasonable in my opinion. The noble uses a ford ecotech engine that is fully built by the rousche treatment. The engine is BULLETPROOF. Overheating is a new issue to me. The cars are designed for buisness. I Love them with a passion. A TRUE drivers car without all the markup that a porsche carries. Im sorry guys, if nobles were sold in the US I would defect. I love working on them and driving them

I like the noble A LOT...
I just have read about a lot of issues... there is one that comes to my home track and the guy brings two cars in case one breaks (Lotus, Caterham, Noble etc)
I think if you read around a bit, the overheating is a well known issue.

When running properly, they simply are fantastic cars.

I still would limit my risk and go 996-3...
 
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Originally Posted by PJS
I like the noble A LOT...
I just have read about a lot of issues... there is one that comes to my home track and the guy brings two cars in case one breaks (Lotus, Caterham, Noble etc)
I think if you read around a bit, the overheating is a well known issue.

When running properly, they simply are fantastic cars.

I still would limit my risk and go 996-3...
SHould be easy enought to fix. Larger capacity radiator, larger cfm fans, low temp thermostat, Some race cool addative, no big deal, cars are easy to work on and plenty of room to get around. Servicability 100x that of a porsche. Im sorry, noble has just a simple elegance about it, makes me get all warm inside
 
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Originally Posted by Denis GTPRO
SHould be easy enought to fix. Larger capacity radiator, larger cfm fans, low temp thermostat, Some race cool addative, no big deal, cars are easy to work on and plenty of room to get around. Servicability 100x that of a porsche. Im sorry, noble has just a simple elegance about it, makes me get all warm inside
no apology needed... they are a hidden gem... If I had more space and money I would have one.
 
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Originally Posted by Denis GTPRO
I own a porsche take this for what its worth. The Noble is a faster car around the track and in a straight line. The noble is lighter as well. You can also pull another 50 hp out of the nobles stock turbos by upping the boost by simple boost controller. This puts a roughly 2100-2200lb car at 500bhp. That would SMOKE a gt3 in every way. Im sorry, but the porsche is outclassed and overpriced vs the noble. an absolute shame
sorry. a noble is about same price as GT3.

you are correct, that a noble of any kind is faster than any GT3 on straight or on most tracks. but that only happens for the first 100 miles. after that, they melt under heat. this is from personal experience.

if u bend a fender on GT3, a few 1000. if you bend a panel on noble... five figures easily.

i have either owned or driven just about every street car worth tracking. and for 70k at the moment GT3 is a good bang for the buck
 

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Originally Posted by mooty
sorry. a noble is about same price as GT3.

you are correct, that a noble of any kind is faster than any GT3 on straight or on most tracks. but that only happens for the first 100 miles. after that, they melt under heat. this is from personal experience.

if u bend a fender on GT3, a few 1000. if you bend a panel on noble... five figures easily.

i have either owned or driven just about every street car worth tracking. and for 70k at the moment GT3 is a good bang for the buck
I might be in the GT3 camp soon I am lusting for one!
 
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The overheating issue on Nobles is an easy fix is what I've heard. I finally got to see one in person on the road earlier this week and they're simply badass. The noble not only beats the 996GT3, but can probably beat out the new GT2 also. Have you guys read anything about what kind of numbers these things are putting out? 3.2s 0-60 time and 11.4 quarter mile. Here's a review by Edmunds:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=120703

The only thing that sucks is the stigma of it being a "kit car" and registration in CA is a *****.
 
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Since you had a 7GT3, try something different. An M400 would be a better choice though.
 
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GT3 over Noble.

As far as 996 versus 997, the 996 GT3 seems like more of a raw blast, where the 997 GT3 is closer to a cup car drive IMHO.

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Originally Posted by c2mojo
I know this is blasphemy but the Viper ACR is really perking my interest lately and I am going out to see one this weekend
I've been considering one as well.
 


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