How does this not bode well for Porsche who only claimed 7:38 for the GT3 while Nissan claims 7:26 for this same model of GT-R?

You post a bunch of forums as if 7:15 wasn't once spread around in this same manner.......

2 seconds vs 12 seconds.

The GT3 also beat the GT-R in same day testing and we all know how the ring conditions change.

 

Woh Woh Woh. Chill out. The tone of this thread changed really quick.

Hammad

 

I haven't seen many people with much hands on experience in the GTR and other supercars, so I'll add a few points.

I have driven the GTR, and other exotics such as CGT, 599GTB, Gallardo SL, Murcielago, etc on both back roads and track, and with hundreds, if not thousands of miles in each car, some driven back to back.

I have to say that the GTR has some serious performance accessible to the average driver. As some has said, the GTR is the easiest car to push to the limits, followed by the Gallardo SL. Not so the CGT, it would really take a pro to maximize the performance of that car, but is absolutely the most rewarding and entertaining to drive.

The GTR is satisfying to drive on its own right, since you could place it with lots of confidence. It has the best turn in of any car I have driven. On the back roads, the only thing hurting it is the ride; I don't really like how the car rebound, and the acceleration does seem to loose some steam by like 120 or so. I can say the same about the CGT too; acceleration above 120 doesn't feel strong, probably due to the heavy down force or gearing. Off the line, like 0-60, not many cars does it easier or faster than the GTR, but the GTR is not designed as a drag racer anyway.

There is rumor floating around that the GTR accomplished a 7:38 by Sport Auto, but about 10 seconds or so off Suzuki's time. Who is to say that Nissan did not tweak the car a bit to get the 7:27 lap. But anyone can add more power and tweak the handling of the car without affecting reliability or drivability much, and for a nominal cost. Add 100hp to a GT2 and I believe it could make it a scarier ride. I would think that most manufacturers tweak their cars to the advantage for these press releases anyway.

And I believe that the GTR is among the top 10 or 20 finishers on the ring that has 4 adult sized seats (although rear is smallish), usable trunk, decent mpg, etc.

 

A lot of people are saying that was merely down to an RHD car in the hands of an LHD driver, who admitted screwing up. The Sport Auto GTR was LHD was it not? Nevermind. 2 truly magnificent cars. I hope Porsche pukka up and find some money before they end up like GM.

 

Exaggerate much? He didn't say he screwed up, and RHD is not a big deal when you are driving paddle shifters, not like he had to row the gears with his left hand or something.

 

Wait a minute, I thought 7:27 was the real time....are we know falling back to a safe zone?

The GTR tries to be master of all trades but masters none, the GTR really is a big EVO that is more mature looking and less boy racer. It may be the pinnacle of A to B street handling car for people with twice big feet and Hell Boy hands. I am really curious about the FQ400, the EVO's relative lack of power keep it from being a true GTR competitor.

There is something about a powerful RWD car that not only requires higher levels of skill but demands it. No full throttle mid corner, no abrupt throttle lifts, no slamming the brakes mid turn....or your next thought is is this going to hurt.

 

I just don't know if it can claim to be the bang for the buck supercar. I mean you sneeze and its warranty is voided and you can't claim the maintenance is in line with other cars in its class. And yes it performs amazingly but at what cost? Is it the worlds worst riding GT car, or is it a cut price hyper GT car? Or is it the new way to build a sports car, is it the penultimate giant killer?

 

No one believes in your post.............

No one.

 

You have one post, do you think anyone believe you....especially when you took what I said out of context and its posted right above.

 

The guy still has to make racing lines and hence he has to know where each side of the car is. His perception of that is a little off if he's sitting on the wrong side. He admitted this himself. SA tested 2 LHD cars and the results were different over one lap but I'm sure the GT3 would come out on top over several laps of a dry, sunny, smooth, wide track.

 

Wow. I'm placing my order at Nissan asap. I need to find a local shop to install a really large exhaust tip, if it doesn't come with one already...I want to be ready for street racing. Any suggestions for tires to make drifting easier? I'm so excited, tonight I'm going to watch Too Fast, Too Furious and possibly play some Tokyo Drift on my XBOX. Import Tuner's here I come!

J

 

I think you missed my point completely...

 

http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/05/29/sp...ertest-result/

Looks like Sport Auto is about to release a number of 7:38 with there factory attempt. I think with Suzuki's expertise and numerous practice laps with the car and in depth factory expertise with the car from the start of development, 10 second or so is a reasonable number.

Either way, 7:38 makes this a pretty darn spectacular car. Anyone in the market for an 09 M3?

 

7:38 is closer to the GT3 and ZO6, these are the GTR's true competitors, not the Enzo, Zonda, ACR and ZR1. A gap of around 2 seconds with arguably the best Nurburgring pilot v a garbage F1 reject is just not possible.

So if 12 sec is reasonable for the GTR then shoudnt we also move the GT2 and CGT in the high 7:10's?


These guys are professional racing drivers, not some average joe. They would instantly adopt to LHD, RHD or sitting in the middle.

 

You totally correct. Even with the best and most respected driver cant gap the time Nissan set. If Nissan only published a 7:38-7:45 no one would be making so much fuss, they simply got greedy.