another GT2 vs GTR test...
#16
Is this the system that makes the transmissions fail when driven too hard for too long?
I have been to the track a number of times, and every time GTR's are there, one goes home with a transmission problem. The last one to go, the owner had someone deliver his 997GT3 to the track to finish the day off!
When they work, my god they are fast, but I prefer to do the entire day, not just the first half.
I have been to the track a number of times, and every time GTR's are there, one goes home with a transmission problem. The last one to go, the owner had someone deliver his 997GT3 to the track to finish the day off!
When they work, my god they are fast, but I prefer to do the entire day, not just the first half.
2 GTRs showed and one made it the whole day and was damn fast
the other had tranny failure and left on flatbed at mid day...
How does this car have tranny failure -- it is automatic everything, the proverbial point and shoot etc -- is this tranny stuff just a software issue?
Also is it true that GTR oil changes are ridiculously expensive?
How is the warranty support for a tracked GTR? I have read/heard that warranty support is an issue if you track the car, if you use launch control, if you don't do this and do that... interested to hear what owners on 6speed have been through...
#17
I was there that day...
2 GTRs showed and one made it the whole day and was damn fast
the other had tranny failure and left on flatbed at mid day...
How does this car have tranny failure -- it is automatic everything, the proverbial point and shoot etc -- is this tranny stuff just a software issue?
Also is it true that GTR oil changes are ridiculously expensive?
How is the warranty support for a tracked GTR? I have read/heard that warranty support is an issue if you track the car, if you use launch control, if you don't do this and do that... interested to hear what owners on 6speed have been through...
2 GTRs showed and one made it the whole day and was damn fast
the other had tranny failure and left on flatbed at mid day...
How does this car have tranny failure -- it is automatic everything, the proverbial point and shoot etc -- is this tranny stuff just a software issue?
Also is it true that GTR oil changes are ridiculously expensive?
How is the warranty support for a tracked GTR? I have read/heard that warranty support is an issue if you track the car, if you use launch control, if you don't do this and do that... interested to hear what owners on 6speed have been through...
#18
unreal...
Can Nissan void your GTR warranty if the tow truck breaks down while giving the GTR a ride?
So can you put a flat bed with a GTR on it -- on another flatbed
I could go on and on...
But I do have to give credit where credit is due -- the black GTR there that day was smoking fast
#19
Oh no you didn't That just doesn't make sense.
What about weight? Refinement? Fit/finish? Dealer service? A recent statistic stated 70% of GT3s are tracked. There is a very good reason for that.
The Spec-V's price blows both your statements out of the water.
People said the same thing about the Z-06. It has it's place, it's amazing, but it didn't put Porsche or Ferrari in the red...
What about weight? Refinement? Fit/finish? Dealer service? A recent statistic stated 70% of GT3s are tracked. There is a very good reason for that.
The Spec-V's price blows both your statements out of the water.
People said the same thing about the Z-06. It has it's place, it's amazing, but it didn't put Porsche or Ferrari in the red...
And don't mention if you mod one, the modded ones can barely make a few laps before something goes wrong, only a few LESS laps than the stock one though so I guess it's all relative.
#20
Watch out it could have been swine flu, a very appropriate name in this case .
#21
Transmission is OK if the owners follow what it says in the manual regarding VDC:
WHAT IS NOT COVERED
DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION DUE TO
ACCIDENTS, MISUSE OR ALTERATIONS
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion
resulting from:
DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION DUE TO
ACCIDENTS, MISUSE OR ALTERATIONS
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion
resulting from:
■ Accident, theft, fire, driving through water (including engine water ingestion) or misuse, which includes, but is not limited to, operation in violation of any applicable law and racing of any sort whatsoever (Proper use is outlined in your OWNER’S MANUAL).
■ Alteration, tampering or improper repair, including but not limited to adding/replacing chips, reprogramming, or attempting to reprogram, alter, or disconnect any computer or control unit.
■ Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual).■ Installation of non-Nissan approved accessories or components.
■ Improper installation of any Nissan approved or aftermarket accessory or component.
■ Glass breakage, unless resulting from defects in material or workmanship.
■ Normal wear and tear, including dings, dents, chips or
scratches.
scratches.
COVERAGE
Roadside Assistance is provided for all Nissan GT-R
vehicles from the date the vehicle is delivered to the
fi rst retail buyer or otherwise put into use, whichever
is earlier, for a period of 60 months, 60,000 miles.
Roadside Assistance is available to anyone operating
the Nissan GT-R vehicle with the authorization of the
owner. (For purpose of Roadside Assistance benefi ts,
“owner” includes the lessee of a leased vehicle.) These
services are transferable with the resale of the vehicle for
the time remaining on the original Nissan New Vehicle
Limited Warranty coverage period. Roadside Assistance
is earlier, for a period of 60 months, 60,000 miles.
Roadside Assistance is available to anyone operating
the Nissan GT-R vehicle with the authorization of the
owner. (For purpose of Roadside Assistance benefi ts,
“owner” includes the lessee of a leased vehicle.) These
services are transferable with the resale of the vehicle for
the time remaining on the original Nissan New Vehicle
Limited Warranty coverage period. Roadside Assistance
is available throughout the lower 48 States and Hawaii.
Last edited by Bill S; 06-08-2009 at 08:23 PM.
#22
Good thing I was three lanes over travelling at 65 mph when I went by it. I haven't been on the track since, but my brakes are toast! Perhaps I can claim this under the Nissan warranty
#24
Really!!!!
unreal...
Can Nissan void your GTR warranty if the tow truck breaks down while giving the GTR a ride?
So can you put a flat bed with a GTR on it -- on another flatbed
I could go on and on...
But I do have to give credit where credit is due -- the black GTR there that day was smoking fast
unreal...
Can Nissan void your GTR warranty if the tow truck breaks down while giving the GTR a ride?
So can you put a flat bed with a GTR on it -- on another flatbed
I could go on and on...
But I do have to give credit where credit is due -- the black GTR there that day was smoking fast
BTW are you going to Oregon in August? I am signed up.
#25
Transmission is OK if the owners follow what it says in the manual regarding VDC:
WHAT IS NOT COVERED
DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION DUE TO
ACCIDENTS, MISUSE OR ALTERATIONS
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion
resulting from:
DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION DUE TO
ACCIDENTS, MISUSE OR ALTERATIONS
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion
resulting from:
■ Accident, theft, fire, driving through water (including engine water ingestion) or misuse, which includes, but is not limited to, operation in violation of any applicable law and racing of any sort whatsoever (Proper use is outlined in your OWNER’S MANUAL).
■ Alteration, tampering or improper repair, including but not limited to adding/replacing chips, reprogramming, or attempting to reprogram, alter, or disconnect any computer or control unit.
■ Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual).■ Installation of non-Nissan approved accessories or components.
■ Improper installation of any Nissan approved or aftermarket accessory or component.
■ Glass breakage, unless resulting from defects in material or workmanship.
■ Normal wear and tear, including dings, dents, chips or
scratches.
scratches.
COVERAGE
Roadside Assistance is provided for all Nissan GT-R
vehicles from the date the vehicle is delivered to the
fi rst retail buyer or otherwise put into use, whichever
is earlier, for a period of 60 months, 60,000 miles.
Roadside Assistance is available to anyone operating
the Nissan GT-R vehicle with the authorization of the
owner. (For purpose of Roadside Assistance benefi ts,
“owner” includes the lessee of a leased vehicle.) These
services are transferable with the resale of the vehicle for
the time remaining on the original Nissan New Vehicle
Limited Warranty coverage period. Roadside Assistance
is earlier, for a period of 60 months, 60,000 miles.
Roadside Assistance is available to anyone operating
the Nissan GT-R vehicle with the authorization of the
owner. (For purpose of Roadside Assistance benefi ts,
“owner” includes the lessee of a leased vehicle.) These
services are transferable with the resale of the vehicle for
the time remaining on the original Nissan New Vehicle
Limited Warranty coverage period. Roadside Assistance
is available throughout the lower 48 States and Hawaii.
#26
The GT-R is much more complex than a GT3 or GT3 RS. I'm amazed that it's so reliable for an all-new car. My GT3 RS already has a broken fuel level gauge, tire pressure sensor, and passenger airbag sensor. The wing mechanism on my CGT failed and the front brake pads cracked. The GT-R is pretty darn reliable, very fast and very safe. Many of my friends own one, and I have to work pretty hard in a CGT or GT3 RS to keep up.
The next generation models will be even better. I'm just trying to address all the BS I here about the GT-R.
#27
The GT-R is much more complex than a GT3 or GT3 RS. I'm amazed that it's so reliable for an all-new car. My GT3 RS already has a broken fuel level gauge, tire pressure sensor, and passenger airbag sensor. The wing mechanism on my CGT failed and the front brake pads cracked.
Are you racing with your friends on the streets or on tracks ?
Last edited by GT3Techno; 06-08-2009 at 09:08 PM.
#28
You're right. You can turn TC off in the GT3 RS. The GT3 RS does not have something like the GT-R's VDC. Regardless, the GT-R is still very fast with the VDC in R-mode, and there's no good reason to turn it off except for the conditions mentioned in the manual.
We're racing on tracks and runways.
#29
The ACR and I were close to each other depending on traffic... I got the point by a couple of times but I think he was sick of my yellow headlights and once by I could not leave him behind... I love the ACR... I would really like to try one...
Randolf repeatedly beats me... I like to chalk it up to experience and michelin slicks
I am signed up for the August PIR/ORP days... need to get trailer
I was looking today at Featherlite opens and enclosed... not cheap... either... got a lead on a rental featherlite open and need to call on it tomorrow and book it if it will work.
back on topic -- why won't nissan allow you to turn off VDC and keep your warranty? So if you are at the track and you turn it off AND you have a problem (say a malfunctioned tranny), they can use the VDC off as a reason to void the warranty? Really?
How much is a dealer oil change on a GTR? I have heard some crazy numbers... owner please verify.... I do not need a scanned invoice or anything, but please tell me it is not more than a couple hundred $...
#30
Yes. The owner and warranty manuals are very clear on when to turn off VDC. Use R-mode for the track.