Projected 2 year depreciation on 2010 Gt3?
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You all are funny. Predicting two year depreciation is vodoo black magic only for fools and liars, but predicting delta's in NR lap times for cars that don't even exist yet is fine. Tooo funny... 
PM me in two years and I'll let you know what my new 997.2 GT3 is worth then and what it cost me.
PM me in two years and I'll let you know what my new 997.2 GT3 is worth then and what it cost me.
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You all are funny. Predicting two year depreciation is vodoo black magic only for fools and liars, but predicting delta's in NR lap times for cars that don't even exist yet is fine. Tooo funny
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You all are funny. Predicting two year depreciation is vodoo black magic only for fools and liars, but predicting delta's in NR lap times for cars that don't even exist yet is fine. Tooo funny...
PM me in two years and I'll let you know what my new 997.2 GT3 is worth then and what it cost me.
PM me in two years and I'll let you know what my new 997.2 GT3 is worth then and what it cost me.
I would imagine that was directed at me for some reason. Hey, I didn't accuse you of practicing voodoo black magic, but if it works for you.
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hmmm torque vectoring vs. throttle steering/LSD/2WD - I am pretty sure I know which is better. The weigh savings and power increase - you can get that from a Titanium exhaust stock turbo is like 70lbs. The only real difference is PDK. That's why I suggested that this is the primary difference.
As far as buying now or later - buy it now and enjoy it
I am just using PDK as an excuse because I don't have time to drive anymore. To be honest it was easy to pass on the 997.1 (mostly cosmetic changes compare to 996.2) by 997.2 is really tempting specially in RS form- even as a garage queen.
As far as buying now or later - buy it now and enjoy it
I am just using PDK as an excuse because I don't have time to drive anymore. To be honest it was easy to pass on the 997.1 (mostly cosmetic changes compare to 996.2) by 997.2 is really tempting specially in RS form- even as a garage queen.Well.... "throttle steering/LSD/2WD" may be better, but we're talking about an AWD car. A Ti exhaust may shave 70 lbs, but we're talking about comparing two OEM cars. I just do not believe that PDK is the only real difference and is worth 10 seconds. I GUESS I would have to agree that it would have a major impact (I'm sure you'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that) but that's not saying that the suspension revisions and all of the aforementioned stuff doesn't count
.Anyway, you'll have to excuse me I am late for my voodoo/witchcraft class. It's the beginner one and I don't want to miss it.
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I think Tim is correct that extracting the performance difference between the two is beyond most. RS is certainly more track ready but less of a daily (not that the GT3 is).
As for PDK it is likley the primary reason the new 997TT is (10 seconds) faster than the old TT at the ring. The difference between RS and GT3 is probably 2-3 seconds. When the PDK ends up in GT3 -with extra power and suspension improvements - it will likely end up as fast a Carrera GT. That would be a bargain say at $135K.
As for PDK it is likley the primary reason the new 997TT is (10 seconds) faster than the old TT at the ring. The difference between RS and GT3 is probably 2-3 seconds. When the PDK ends up in GT3 -with extra power and suspension improvements - it will likely end up as fast a Carrera GT. That would be a bargain say at $135K.
But in my last track day, I found that lap time is not everything, but the actual enjoyment of fast driving on the track...I found that the manual shifting contributes significantly to that pleasure, to the point that I'm willing to sacrifice some lap time for that pleasure feeling.
It is like when a couple is trying to conceive to have their babies. The number of babies that they produce is the eventual outcome, but the pleasure comes from the "process" of baby making...
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Well.... "throttle steering/LSD/2WD" may be better, but we're talking about an AWD car. A Ti exhaust may shave 70 lbs, but we're talking about comparing two OEM cars. I just do not believe that PDK is the only real difference and is worth 10 seconds. I GUESS I would have to agree that it would have a major impact (I'm sure you'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that) but that's not saying that the suspension revisions and all of the aforementioned stuff doesn't count .
Anyway, you'll have to excuse me I am late for my voodoo/witchcraft class. It's the beginner one and I don't want to miss it.
.Anyway, you'll have to excuse me I am late for my voodoo/witchcraft class. It's the beginner one and I don't want to miss it.
Regarding estimating depreciation well that is in fact a science and determines lease rates in a normal economy. Perhaps voodoo works better these days
Agree that the future PDK GT3 will be faster.
But in my last track day, I found that lap time is not everything, but the actual enjoyment of fast driving on the track...I found that the manual shifting contributes significantly to that pleasure, to the point that I'm willing to sacrifice some lap time for that pleasure feeling.
It is like when a couple is trying to conceive to have their babies. The number of babies that they produce is the eventual outcome, but the pleasure comes from the "process" of baby making...
But in my last track day, I found that lap time is not everything, but the actual enjoyment of fast driving on the track...I found that the manual shifting contributes significantly to that pleasure, to the point that I'm willing to sacrifice some lap time for that pleasure feeling.
It is like when a couple is trying to conceive to have their babies. The number of babies that they produce is the eventual outcome, but the pleasure comes from the "process" of baby making...
So practice safe sex in you analogy
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Yes, but you take significantly less on trade-in than in a private sale so the tax credit is largely offset by receiving less for your car. At least in Colorado, you don't receive any tax credit, unless you trade-in to a dealer (private sales don't qualify).
And in states like CA, you're entirely out of luck with tax credit on trade-in.
And in states like CA, you're entirely out of luck with tax credit on trade-in.
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