09 C2S or 2010 GT3?
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"The closest will be a modded turbo. "
The plot thickens...
I was waiting for this to come up. What about this option? (eg. Gen 1 CPO coupe with sunroof and backseat. Oh, and lots of torque for dad,mom and the little one...)LOL
The plot thickens...
I was waiting for this to come up. What about this option? (eg. Gen 1 CPO coupe with sunroof and backseat. Oh, and lots of torque for dad,mom and the little one...)LOL
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I had a 2007 Carrera S and have a 2010 GT3.
The Carrera S and the GT3 are totally different cars with different sensations. It is beyond the numbers on paper.
I hope everyone can have a chance to sit inside a GT3, and experience its engine roars to 4,000rpm and higher. That will immediately answer the question -- there is an unmistaken race engine back there. After an hour of determined driving, I would take my hands off of the steering wheel and wipe my sweats off them. The only control in the audio system I use is the Mute button. GT3: A race machine on public road.
The Carrera S, especially without the PSE, is as civilized as many German sports cars nowadays. I feel that I am a better driver in the Carrera S because it doesn't magnify my driving skill flaws as the GT3 does. I can drive all day long, in rain, with total relaxation while having conversation with the passenger. My favorite radio station is light rock music. Carrera: A sports car with race heritage.
Just my experience.
With best regards,
The Carrera S and the GT3 are totally different cars with different sensations. It is beyond the numbers on paper.
I hope everyone can have a chance to sit inside a GT3, and experience its engine roars to 4,000rpm and higher. That will immediately answer the question -- there is an unmistaken race engine back there. After an hour of determined driving, I would take my hands off of the steering wheel and wipe my sweats off them. The only control in the audio system I use is the Mute button. GT3: A race machine on public road.
The Carrera S, especially without the PSE, is as civilized as many German sports cars nowadays. I feel that I am a better driver in the Carrera S because it doesn't magnify my driving skill flaws as the GT3 does. I can drive all day long, in rain, with total relaxation while having conversation with the passenger. My favorite radio station is light rock music. Carrera: A sports car with race heritage.
Just my experience.
With best regards,
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I had a 2007 Carrera S and have a 2010 GT3.
The Carrera S and the GT3 are totally different cars with different sensations. It is beyond the numbers on paper.
I hope everyone can have a chance to sit inside a GT3, and experience its engine roars to 4,000rpm and higher. That will immediately answer the question -- there is an unmistaken race engine back there. After an hour of determined driving, I would take my hands off of the steering wheel and wipe my sweats off them. The only control in the audio system I use is the Mute button. GT3: A race machine on public road.
The Carrera S, especially without the PSE, is as civilized as many German sports cars nowadays. I feel that I am a better driver in the Carrera S because it doesn't magnify my driving skill flaws as the GT3 does. I can drive all day long, in rain, with total relaxation while having conversation with the passenger. My favorite radio station is light rock music. Carrera: A sports car with race heritage.
Just my experience.
With best regards,
The Carrera S and the GT3 are totally different cars with different sensations. It is beyond the numbers on paper.
I hope everyone can have a chance to sit inside a GT3, and experience its engine roars to 4,000rpm and higher. That will immediately answer the question -- there is an unmistaken race engine back there. After an hour of determined driving, I would take my hands off of the steering wheel and wipe my sweats off them. The only control in the audio system I use is the Mute button. GT3: A race machine on public road.
The Carrera S, especially without the PSE, is as civilized as many German sports cars nowadays. I feel that I am a better driver in the Carrera S because it doesn't magnify my driving skill flaws as the GT3 does. I can drive all day long, in rain, with total relaxation while having conversation with the passenger. My favorite radio station is light rock music. Carrera: A sports car with race heritage.
Just my experience.
With best regards,
However:
- GT3 can be a headache sometimes due to the low spoiler, harder clutch, semi slick tyres, etc. But yes, it's a more thrilling driving experience
- C2S with some mods as nice exhaust system and lowering springs can be done a much more rewarding car, without the hassle the GT3 does being an almost no compromise car
In a perfect world with perfect roads and no bumps and steep driveways the GT3 is the winner, but in a normal and real world the C2S or C4S can be used more often without worries !
I wonder why I see many GT3's for sale with less than 5K miles, while "normal" 911's for sale have higher mileage
I truly believe the GT3 is the purest 911, but I am not sure if I would like to own one due to the before mentioned "no compromise" issues
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Nicely put !
However:
- GT3 can be a headache sometimes due to the low spoiler, harder clutch, semi slick tyres, etc. But yes, it's a more thrilling driving experience
- C2S with some mods as nice exhaust system and lowering springs can be done a much more rewarding car, without the hassle the GT3 does being an almost no compromise car
In a perfect world with perfect roads and no bumps and steep driveways the GT3 is the winner, but in a normal and real world the C2S or C4S can be used more often without worries !
I wonder why I see many GT3's for sale with less than 5K miles, while "normal" 911's for sale have higher mileage
I truly believe the GT3 is the purest 911, but I am not sure if I would like to own one due to the before mentioned "no compromise" issues
However:
- GT3 can be a headache sometimes due to the low spoiler, harder clutch, semi slick tyres, etc. But yes, it's a more thrilling driving experience
- C2S with some mods as nice exhaust system and lowering springs can be done a much more rewarding car, without the hassle the GT3 does being an almost no compromise car
In a perfect world with perfect roads and no bumps and steep driveways the GT3 is the winner, but in a normal and real world the C2S or C4S can be used more often without worries !
I wonder why I see many GT3's for sale with less than 5K miles, while "normal" 911's for sale have higher mileage
I truly believe the GT3 is the purest 911, but I am not sure if I would like to own one due to the before mentioned "no compromise" issues
You can add whatever to a C2(4)S and it still won't even equal the emotion the GT3 provides. We're talking emotion not track times. The tires are an obvious easy fix so they're not worth mentioning, the clutch is far from too heavy; it's preferable and the intake/exhaust will never rival a GT3 no matter what mods are done to the Carrera. Geez... I remember my first '02 E46 M3 and its noisy clutch, aggressive throttle mapping and tight suspension and how much I loved it! Then when I was able to trade it for an '03 (due to a very strong M market at the time) and learned that BMW secretly toned those three items down, I was so disappointed. I also remember how silly soft my 997 turbo's clutch was and missing the action of the C2S; then the GT freakin 3, yeah!!! Sorry, got a little excited, anyway, speaking of mods, try to recoup that money from a Carrera. And, as we all know GT3s hold a better residual than the Carrera relatively speaking.
The reason you find so many low mileage GT3s is because the owners thought they liked sports cars then found out what a sports car really is. These buyers belong in Mercs. w/auto trans. As far as scraping goes, either get a GT3 with the OEM lift, fit one of the excellent aftermarket ones or replace the disposable lower apron lip once a year, if that.
The .2 GT3 is far from a "no compromise" sports car, with PSM, TC and a much more dialed in suspension; as if even the .1 was a "no compromise" car. The ONLY reason the GT3 MAY be a no compromise car is IF the owner needs to get places he/she simply can't due to the ride height and/or lack of a lifting device. Those examples are few.
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Speaking of the GT3 OEM Front Axle Lifting System. I have been using it, and it really works.
There is a local gas station that my Carrera S usually will scrape a little when driving out, yet with the Front Axle Lifting System the GT3 does not scrape.
Pretty amazing for 30mm of lift, I guess the Porsche engineers do know what they are doing.
That really adds everyday practicality of driving the GT3.
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There is a local gas station that my Carrera S usually will scrape a little when driving out, yet with the Front Axle Lifting System the GT3 does not scrape.
Pretty amazing for 30mm of lift, I guess the Porsche engineers do know what they are doing.
That really adds everyday practicality of driving the GT3.
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You can add whatever to a C2(4)S and it still won't even equal the emotion the GT3 provides. We're talking emotion not track times. The tires are an obvious easy fix so they're not worth mentioning, the clutch is far from too heavy; it's preferable and the intake/exhaust will never rival a GT3 no matter what mods are done to the Carrera. Geez... I remember my first '02 E46 M3 and its noisy clutch, aggressive throttle mapping and tight suspension and how much I loved it! Then when I was able to trade it for an '03 (due to a very strong M market at the time) and learned that BMW secretly toned those three items down, I was so disappointed. I also remember how silly soft my 997 turbo's clutch was and missing the action of the C2S; then the GT freakin 3, yeah!!! Sorry, got a little excited, anyway, speaking of mods, try to recoup that money from a Carrera. And, as we all know GT3s hold a better residual than the Carrera relatively speaking.
The reason you find so many low mileage GT3s is because the owners thought they liked sports cars then found out what a sports car really is. These buyers belong in Mercs. w/auto trans. As far as scraping goes, either get a GT3 with the OEM lift, fit one of the excellent aftermarket ones or replace the disposable lower apron lip once a year, if that.
The .2 GT3 is far from a "no compromise" sports car, with PSM, TC and a much more dialed in suspension; as if even the .1 was a "no compromise" car. The ONLY reason the GT3 MAY be a no compromise car is IF the owner needs to get places he/she simply can't due to the ride height and/or lack of a lifting device. Those examples are few
The reason you find so many low mileage GT3s is because the owners thought they liked sports cars then found out what a sports car really is. These buyers belong in Mercs. w/auto trans. As far as scraping goes, either get a GT3 with the OEM lift, fit one of the excellent aftermarket ones or replace the disposable lower apron lip once a year, if that.
The .2 GT3 is far from a "no compromise" sports car, with PSM, TC and a much more dialed in suspension; as if even the .1 was a "no compromise" car. The ONLY reason the GT3 MAY be a no compromise car is IF the owner needs to get places he/she simply can't due to the ride height and/or lack of a lifting device. Those examples are few
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