How to lock in with stock belts
How to lock in with stock belts
I'm hoping someone here has a 'trick' I can use to really cinch up my belts for a track day in my GT3 with a roll bar, stock seats, and 3 point belts.
In my old 996tt I would put my seat back as far and low as it would go. I'd then twist my belt clasp and click it into the lap clasp. I would then lean back as far as I could and give the upper belt strap a very quick tug to lock the belt reel. While holding tension on the locked belt I'd use my power memory seat to move to my preferred driving position. This would tension the belt across my shoulder and chest to a very VERY tight fit. Enough so that I'd have some bruising by the end of the weekend. It was worth it though because the belt did a decent job of keeping me planted in my seat.
Now with the GT3 I can hardly get my seat back past my normal driving position before it's hits the roll bar and by the time I lock the belt reel and move forward for tension I'm too close to the wheel.
Any thoughts or suggestions that have work for you?
In my old 996tt I would put my seat back as far and low as it would go. I'd then twist my belt clasp and click it into the lap clasp. I would then lean back as far as I could and give the upper belt strap a very quick tug to lock the belt reel. While holding tension on the locked belt I'd use my power memory seat to move to my preferred driving position. This would tension the belt across my shoulder and chest to a very VERY tight fit. Enough so that I'd have some bruising by the end of the weekend. It was worth it though because the belt did a decent job of keeping me planted in my seat.
Now with the GT3 I can hardly get my seat back past my normal driving position before it's hits the roll bar and by the time I lock the belt reel and move forward for tension I'm too close to the wheel.
Any thoughts or suggestions that have work for you?
I use a device called a CG Lock. It goes on the metal insert part of the belt and allows you to cinch yourself in and still have the shoulder part loose and operational.
I got rid of my harness and like this much better. Here is the site link... http://www.cg-lock.com/
Stu
I got rid of my harness and like this much better. Here is the site link... http://www.cg-lock.com/
Stu
I use a device called a CG Lock. It goes on the metal insert part of the belt and allows you to cinch yourself in and still have the shoulder part loose and operational.
I got rid of my harness and like this much better. Here is the site link... http://www.cg-lock.com/
Stu
I got rid of my harness and like this much better. Here is the site link... http://www.cg-lock.com/
Stu
What do you do for upper body stability though? I like how my old belt held my torso to the back of the seat.
Last edited by BartN (TX); Mar 29, 2010 at 02:09 PM.
I have never really had a problem with my upper torso. The shoulder harness will still work as designed and I keep two hands on the wheel at all times too.
I guess the situps and workouts have paid off!
Stu
I guess the situps and workouts have paid off!
Stu
Well, for $50 I decided the best way to find out how it works is to just buy one. Hopefully it'll be here by Friday when I'm due to hit the track.
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.
Here's a little trick I suggest to my customers during track days if they're using stock belts, basically exactly what you used to do. Still works even in our car with the roll bar and sport seats:
1. Move your seat all the way back.
2. Put on your belt and make it as snug as you can.
3. Give the shoulder belt a slight yank to "lock" it.
4. While the shoulder belt is still "locked", slide your seat forward to your driving position.
This will keep the belt tight against your body while you're driving and eliminate and movement due to slack in the belt. It may be a little uncomfortable at first, but you'll thank me once you take a few laps.
1. Move your seat all the way back.
2. Put on your belt and make it as snug as you can.
3. Give the shoulder belt a slight yank to "lock" it.
4. While the shoulder belt is still "locked", slide your seat forward to your driving position.
This will keep the belt tight against your body while you're driving and eliminate and movement due to slack in the belt. It may be a little uncomfortable at first, but you'll thank me once you take a few laps.
Here's a little trick I suggest to my customers during track days if they're using stock belts, basically exactly what you used to do. Still works even in our car with the roll bar and sport seats:
1. Move your seat all the way back.
2. Put on your belt and make it as snug as you can.
3. Give the shoulder belt a slight yank to "lock" it.
4. While the shoulder belt is still "locked", slide your seat forward to your driving position.
This will keep the belt tight against your body while you're driving and eliminate and movement due to slack in the belt. It may be a little uncomfortable at first, but you'll thank me once you take a few laps.
1. Move your seat all the way back.
2. Put on your belt and make it as snug as you can.
3. Give the shoulder belt a slight yank to "lock" it.
4. While the shoulder belt is still "locked", slide your seat forward to your driving position.
This will keep the belt tight against your body while you're driving and eliminate and movement due to slack in the belt. It may be a little uncomfortable at first, but you'll thank me once you take a few laps.


see below....."Now with the GT3 I can hardly get my seat back past my normal driving position before it's hits the roll bar and by the time I lock the belt reel and move forward for tension I'm too close to the wheel."
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Ok Tom, admit it, you didn't read my whole post! 
see below.....
"Now with the GT3 I can hardly get my seat back past my normal driving position before it's hits the roll bar and by the time I lock the belt reel and move forward for tension I'm too close to the wheel."

see below....."Now with the GT3 I can hardly get my seat back past my normal driving position before it's hits the roll bar and by the time I lock the belt reel and move forward for tension I'm too close to the wheel."
I had great luck with my C2S using the "tug and lock" approach, but the belts in my GT3 don't really respond well to that approach. Generally I just suck in my chest, pull the belt as tight as I can, and stab the brakes as I'm leaving the paddock. The quick jab on the brakes locks the belt and I'm cinched in for the rest of the run.
I still bruise my left knee trying to hold myself steady against the door, though, and I really ought to just suck it up and get some proper seats.
The CG lock doesn't appeal to me because I want the shoulder belt tight in addition to the lap belt.
I still bruise my left knee trying to hold myself steady against the door, though, and I really ought to just suck it up and get some proper seats.
The CG lock doesn't appeal to me because I want the shoulder belt tight in addition to the lap belt.
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