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#46
10-29-2005 | 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by OldGuy
I for one am thankful you both are here. I love reading your posts
since I can only afford my lowly GT3, I can see what the other cars look and feel like through you who have had them all. Jack thanks for the pics. BTW where is that last pic. I saw that store that makes the 550 spyder replicas behind your gorgeous 430 in the Rides program on the Learning channel. I dont get out of the desert/mountians much.
I for one am thankful you both are here. I love reading your posts
since I can only afford my lowly GT3, I can see what the other cars look and feel like through you who have had them all. Jack thanks for the pics. BTW where is that last pic. I saw that store that makes the 550 spyder replicas behind your gorgeous 430 in the Rides program on the Learning channel. I dont get out of the desert/mountians much.
Your GT3 is no lowly vehicle -- it's an amazing car. I know you're enjoying it.
Also, thanks for the kind words. I'm sure Watt appreciates your kind sentiments, as well. I haven't had all the cars, but I do love all cars -- the big, the small, the ones from Europe, Japan and America. This is certainly a great time for performance cars -- lots of choices at many different price points.
#47
10-29-2005 | 06:04 PM
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If the Z06 and 430 were sketched (or photographed) I'd have to say there's not much in it, looks wise - with the nod going to the Ferrari. But, as they say, "the devil's in the details", and having seen both cars up close, the Ferrari is the better finished piece.
And as for F-cars feeling better from the driver's seat than GT3/2, I'll have to defer judgement to Arling, but from a passenger's POV, only the 360CS has felt better. IMHO
And as for F-cars feeling better from the driver's seat than GT3/2, I'll have to defer judgement to Arling, but from a passenger's POV, only the 360CS has felt better. IMHO
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10-29-2005 | 06:53 PM
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Honourable lord jack del ferrari del slammed to the max,
bring your cf lined humidor up to TOW for a Cuban!!!!!!!
i'll bring the yellow stitched lighter you gave me, and those low end cigars i carry
roland's thinkin' sat pm. noel? Amir? etc?
bring your cf lined humidor up to TOW for a Cuban!!!!!!!
i'll bring the yellow stitched lighter you gave me, and those low end cigars i carry
roland's thinkin' sat pm. noel? Amir? etc?
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#49
10-29-2005 | 06:59 PM
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Watt, I really didn't mean any disrespect. You are a very cool guy according to those that know you and I am sure someday we will meet. Let's do a formal design review on the Z06 and see who is on crack .. .me, GM, or their customers. I can't blame GM for making what their customers want ... so therefore my conclusion.
#50
10-29-2005 | 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by MetalSolid
And as for F-cars feeling better from the driver's seat than GT3/2, I'll have to defer judgement to Arling, but from a passenger's POV, only the 360CS has felt better. IMHO
And as for F-cars feeling better from the driver's seat than GT3/2, I'll have to defer judgement to Arling, but from a passenger's POV, only the 360CS has felt better. IMHO
I'll get a chance next month to drive a CGT under the tutelage of Hurley Haywood and crew at Fontana -- maybe that will alter my opinion of P-cars. LOL
#51
10-29-2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by watt
Honourable lord jack del ferrari del slammed to the max,
bring your cf lined humidor up to TOW for a Cuban!!!!!!!
i'll bring the yellow stitched lighter you gave me, and those low end cigars i carry
roland's thinkin' sat pm. noel? Amir? etc?
Honourable lord jack del ferrari del slammed to the max,
bring your cf lined humidor up to TOW for a Cuban!!!!!!!
i'll bring the yellow stitched lighter you gave me, and those low end cigars i carry
roland's thinkin' sat pm. noel? Amir? etc?
Amir is out of town, maybe Dean can make it and represent the CGT crowd.
#52
10-29-2005 | 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by quartermile
Watt, I really didn't mean any disrespect. You are a very cool guy according to those that know you and I am sure someday we will meet. Let's do a formal design review on the Z06 and see who is on crack .. .me, GM, or their customers. I can't blame GM for making what their customers want ... so therefore my conclusion.
Watt, I really didn't mean any disrespect. You are a very cool guy according to those that know you and I am sure someday we will meet. Let's do a formal design review on the Z06 and see who is on crack .. .me, GM, or their customers. I can't blame GM for making what their customers want ... so therefore my conclusion.
Chips...check,...beer...check
Ok boys, have at it , this should be a fun read
#54
10-29-2005 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Jack(LA)
Watt,
I always knew you were the common folk of Malibu -- that's rich (pun intended). The three GT2's, the two GT3's, the Maser, the two Stradale's, that wasn't the real you. You are more the Cobra/Boxster, down to earth, kind of guy. LOL.
BTW, I thought the Z06 was great. Perhaps not my cup of tea, but a tremendous performance bargain. I'd definitely consider it as a dedicated track car, although I do like the "lightness" of the Elise better. It doesn't quite have the "driving/steering feel" that either the GT3 or my F-cars have (with the F-cars being even better than the GT2/3), but that's to be expected. Nevertheless, the Z is a very capable handling car, and it will just take some time to get comfortable with the different "feeling". Sort of like the difference in feel between the GT3 and the CS going over the bumpy section of Turn 8 at WS -- they both can take that turn quite fast, but one car instills more confidence in the driver than the other. I think you know what I mean.
Interior quality is fine for $65-70K car, IMHO. No worse than a non-leather GT3 -- I don't know/understand why people are complaining about it. Of course, no comparison to the CS or F430 interior but at $200k, you should expect and get more. And yes, I do like having choices and the ability to make my cars special with deviated stitching, carbon fibre and the like.....but no zebra/leopard skins please. An opportunity to post PICS, I can not resist.
Watt,
I always knew you were the common folk of Malibu -- that's rich (pun intended). The three GT2's, the two GT3's, the Maser, the two Stradale's, that wasn't the real you. You are more the Cobra/Boxster, down to earth, kind of guy. LOL.
BTW, I thought the Z06 was great. Perhaps not my cup of tea, but a tremendous performance bargain. I'd definitely consider it as a dedicated track car, although I do like the "lightness" of the Elise better. It doesn't quite have the "driving/steering feel" that either the GT3 or my F-cars have (with the F-cars being even better than the GT2/3), but that's to be expected. Nevertheless, the Z is a very capable handling car, and it will just take some time to get comfortable with the different "feeling". Sort of like the difference in feel between the GT3 and the CS going over the bumpy section of Turn 8 at WS -- they both can take that turn quite fast, but one car instills more confidence in the driver than the other. I think you know what I mean.
Interior quality is fine for $65-70K car, IMHO. No worse than a non-leather GT3 -- I don't know/understand why people are complaining about it. Of course, no comparison to the CS or F430 interior but at $200k, you should expect and get more. And yes, I do like having choices and the ability to make my cars special with deviated stitching, carbon fibre and the like.....but no zebra/leopard skins please. An opportunity to post PICS, I can not resist.
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10-29-2005 | 09:28 PM
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Watt, I'll be there - PM/email time.
Jack, what is feel? How do we define feel? If you're talking about feeling what you can hear, what you can see, then feel is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain... or are you talking je ne sais quoi again?
Jack, what is feel? How do we define feel? If you're talking about feeling what you can hear, what you can see, then feel is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain... or are you talking je ne sais quoi again?
#57
10-30-2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by MetalSolid
Watt, I'll be there - PM/email time.
Jack, what is feel? How do we define feel? If you're talking about feeling what you can hear, what you can see, then feel is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain... or are you talking je ne sais quoi again?
Watt, I'll be there - PM/email time.
Jack, what is feel? How do we define feel? If you're talking about feeling what you can hear, what you can see, then feel is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain... or are you talking je ne sais quoi again?
#59
10-30-2005 | 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Jack(LA)
Feel, baby -- it's all about that 'lovin feeling'. You know it when you FEEL it. Perhaps you've never FELT it -- what a shame.
Feel, baby -- it's all about that 'lovin feeling'. You know it when you FEEL it. Perhaps you've never FELT it -- what a shame.
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10-30-2005 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Jack(LA)
Feel, baby -- it's all about that 'lovin feeling'. You know it when you FEEL it. Perhaps you've never FELT it -- what a shame.
Feel, baby -- it's all about that 'lovin feeling'. You know it when you FEEL it. Perhaps you've never FELT it -- what a shame.