GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Me_qwkr
only flaw in the GT is i dont own one... If it drops under 300k i have a 2 hour plan on how to get one.. My brother and i figure a bath tub full of ice and an unlucky tax agent.. LOL
 
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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A big reason I stayed away from it was the instability of the car as well.
As I said previously a friend of mine who is a Pro driver said the car is one of the most unstable cars he has ever been in. he did 50 laps @ CA speedway and felt the car was flawed and that’s why there are so many accidents in them.
To be perfectly frank, I honestly find this a bit laughable. I've yet to drive a car that came any where near the stability of the CGT. No other street Porsche does so, even remotely, and in a variety of road tests even the Enzo had all it could do to match the CGT's prowes on the more demanding circuits. Then again, there are "so many" accidents in that car as well.
Perhaps the car was flawed, improperly aligned (common on all high performance cars that come straight from the dealer) or perhaps...
 

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh
To be perfectly frank, I honestly find this a bit laughable. I've yet to drive a car that came any where near the stability of the CGT. No other street Porsche does so, even remotely, and in a variety of road tests even the Enzo had all it could do to match the CGT's prowes on the more demanding circuits. Then again, there are "so many" accidents in that car as well.
Perhaps the car was flawed, improperly aligned (common on all high performance cars that come straight from the dealer) or perhaps...
I agree its a great car, I have drivin both the CGT and the Enzo. i was in the market to buy a CGT. they are very close in speed but the instabily of the CGT comes on the turns were the end kicks out.
One of my good friends just sold his CGT and got an Enzo for that reason
 
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SK90077
I agree its a great car, I have drivin both the CGT and the Enzo. i was in the market to buy a CGT. they are very close in speed but the instabily of the CGT comes on the turns were the end kicks out.
One of my good friends just sold his CGT and got an Enzo for that reason
The CGT is no doubt an edgy car when pushed. I really would not call it unstable though. It is likely that the more eloborate stability control system in the Enzo plays a big role in being more controllable in the turns.
Everyone has a different style of driving, and some would probably welcome the more knife edged nature of the CGT over what appears to be the case with the Enzo or the reverse.
The same applies to pro drivers. Not every driver is suited to pilot every car. When Jeff Gordon tried his hands at piloting Montoya's F1 car, he had all he could to to keep it on the track.
 
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh
The CGT is no doubt an edgy car when pushed. I really would not call it unstable though. It is likely that the more eloborate stability control system in the Enzo plays a big role in being more controllable in the turns.
Everyone has a different style of driving, and some would probably welcome the more knife edged nature of the CGT over what appears to be the case with the Enzo or the reverse.
The same applies to pro drivers. Not every driver is suited to pilot every car. When Jeff Gordon tried his hands at piloting Montoya's F1 car, he had all he could to to keep it on the track.
well said. i think that most drivers arnt skilled enough to drive the CGT and thats the problem
 
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SK90077
well said. i think that most drivers arnt skilled enough to drive the CGT and thats the problem
That is what I heard..unfortunately this car was bought by a lot of "skilled amateur drivers" which isn't enough to handle a really high strung race car...
 
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Originally Posted by z8cw
That is what I heard..unfortunately this car was bought by a lot of "skilled amateur drivers" which isn't enough to handle a really high strung race car...
High strung? You heard?

You guys ought to quit smokin' crack and move out of your parents' basements.

My Carrera GT is one of the best balanced cars I've ever driven on a track.

If one thinks the car is too "edgy", one can always adjust the rear bar to a softer setting.
 

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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High strung? You heard?

You guys ought to quit smokin' crack and move out of your parents' basements.

My Carrera GT is one of the best balanced cars I've ever driven on a track.

If one thinks the car is too "edgy", one can always adjust the rear bar to a softer setting.
Totally agree with W8MM - the GT is extremely stable, especially if you judiciously apply throttle at track out. I can easily see how inexperienced individuals could lose control of the car via power throttle oversteer/snap oversteer (i.e. hard on the throttle vs. squeezing it) that is exacerbated by the mid-engine design and power of the car, resulting in statements that the car is unstable. The major characteristic that is unstable is a driver's right foot! If you want edgy (or edgier), drive a GT-2. Same conditions apply - judicious use of your right foot. If you do it, both the CGT and GT-2 greatly reward the driver.
 
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The driver i was speaking of didnt lose control of the car but still made the statement. (he drifts in AWD Lambos all the time). he mainly tracks cars.
I know Tom so thats why I bring up these points
 
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Not a drifter, but.......

I wouldn't imagine that mid-engine cars are the most optimal drift cars - more difficult to transfer weight; seems as though most are front engine, rear wheel drive vehicles, with secondary preferences being rear engine vehicles. I have great respect for drifters as to car control; at the same time, show drifting and racing on a track are quite different.
 
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I wouldn't imagine that mid-engine cars are the most optimal drift cars - more difficult to transfer weight; seems as though most are front engine, rear wheel drive vehicles, with secondary preferences being rear engine vehicles. I have great respect for drifters as to car control; at the same time, show drifting and racing on a track are quite different.
I agree. its not easy to drift an AWD car but i point it out to show he can control car (speically a beast like a lambo)
 
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Originally Posted by SK90077
I agree. its not easy to drift an AWD car but i point it out to show he can control car (speically a beast like a lambo)
Don't drink and drift! Tom, are you looking into a CGT i take it?
 
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