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bli8 Oct 4, 2006 01:30 AM

CGT seats in 997GT3 for US. Yes or No?
 
Many say the CGT seats won't be available for US 997 GT3's because they aren't DOT certified, but if they came standard on the US CGT's then why couldn't they be available for the 3? :confused:

Josh Oct 4, 2006 10:22 AM

There answer is no, but I'm not sure why. Perhaps because the closer proximity of the back wall of the CGT's cockpit to the seat and the car's rollbar like structure above the occupants' heads offers enough protection if the seat breaks in a collision.

evlgt2 Oct 4, 2006 11:10 AM

Airbag laws changed. That is why there were no 2006 CGTs and why the CGT seats aren't legal for sale in the 997GT3. I would bet, like the "old GT3 euro" seats, the new GT3/CGT seats will become readily available for retrofit...

Josh Oct 4, 2006 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by evlgt2
Side impact laws changed. That is why there were no 2006 CGTs and why the CGT seats aren't legal for sale in the 997GT3. I would bet, like the "old GT3 euro" seats, the new GT3/CGT seats will become readily available for retrofit...

I'm curious what exactly the law is that makes the seat illegal.

As far as the retrofit, if it has a part #, you can order it and put it in your car.

evlgt2 Oct 4, 2006 12:40 PM

It has to do with the advanced airbag regs that went into effect in 2006- sensors in the seats to adjust the force of the airbag deployment depending on the passenger size, among other things.

Same thing affected the F430, but Ferrari petitioned the gov't, arguing that the basis of the F430 was designed in the early 90s (as the 360) and thus it would cost the company undue financial hardship to renengineer the entire car to meet the 2006 regs.

I think the whole issue has to do with a combination of sensors in the seats, airbags in the seats, external airbag shut off switches, as well as (possibly a seperate but related issue) side impact protection of the body of the car and how it relates to "children and small women" in frontal and side impacts.

Smoltz Oct 4, 2006 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Josh
I'm curious what exactly the law is that makes the seat illegal.

As far as the retrofit, if it has a part #, you can order it and put it in your car.

I wonder if it will be a plug and play or if there will be airbag light/occupancy sensor issues, etc.

I guess only time will tell.

-Adam

evlgt2 Oct 4, 2006 05:14 PM

AFAIK the dealer can shut of any resultant airbag/warning lights...

06blk997s Nov 19, 2006 11:26 AM

i want one..how long the wait for this set

06blk997s Nov 19, 2006 11:27 AM

or two seats..does it comes with braket and wire harness for the side airbag shipped to 08753..new jersey

997Vancity Nov 19, 2006 01:06 PM

So each seat is 2700?

SmoothCab Nov 19, 2006 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by evlgt2
It has to do with the advanced airbag regs that went into effect in 2006- sensors in the seats to adjust the force of the airbag deployment depending on the passenger size, among other things.

Same thing affected the F430, but Ferrari petitioned the gov't, arguing that the basis of the F430 was designed in the early 90s (as the 360) and thus it would cost the company undue financial hardship to renengineer the entire car to meet the 2006 regs.

I think the whole issue has to do with a combination of sensors in the seats, airbags in the seats, external airbag shut off switches, as well as (possibly a seperate but related issue) side impact protection of the body of the car and how it relates to "children and small women" in frontal and side impacts.

Good information!! Thanks for the research!!!

gmoney Nov 20, 2006 01:17 PM

Install seats, dealer deactivates airbag issue.

flyboy Nov 21, 2006 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by gmoney
Install seats, dealer deactivates airbag issue.

Not that easy. I have the 996 GT3 seats in my 997 and two dealers can't turn off the airbag light. The guys at GMG Racing think they can put a 3 ohm resistor into the wiring harness to trick the car into believing there's an airbag connected to the wiring harness. Then the dealer should be able to turn off the light, but I'm still waiting for the resistor to try this scheme out.

Dan Nov 22, 2006 07:58 AM

siucks... just do it yourself :p

PorscheC4 Nov 22, 2006 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by jmiller
we are selling the seats to be added in
they are about $2700/seat
I have a few sets on order

they are the CGT seat just different covering

Hey, was just wondering. will they fit in a 996? i want to get GT3 seats for my C4 cab and was going to get the GT3 seats. would these work also. I have a grey interior. if they dont work, how much can you get the grey 996 GT3 seats for me for?


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