Hey guys, I really need to get a new TV and want to get one before superbowl. After looking around with my untrained eye I have landed on the Mitsubishi WD 65731. The set is HD 1080p and is a DLP. I like the DLP as the room the set will be in gets an awful lot of light.

I have a couple of questions. I hear that there isn't anything producing anywhere near 1080 resolution (signal to the TV) but I will likely have the TV for five years or more so should I still get the higher res?

Can anyone give me a synopsis of the 1080 v. 720 or make any recommendations on alternate brand or models. I currently have both a Mits and a Toshiba and both have been flawless since new. Actually like the Toshiba better.

TIA

Doug

 

Go to www.avsforum.com

BTW, you put this thread in the wrong section!

 

Nothing is broadcast in 1080P. However the new HD DVD players will output 1080P. The real issue between a 1080P TV and a 720P or 1080I is the number of pixels. A 1080P will have 1920 X 1024 (Not sure of the exact numbers) per sq. inch. While a 720P will have around (depending on the model 768 X 1024 per sq inch. So you figure it out. Better resolution is the key. There are a lot of variables like the quality of the upscale converter, size of the TV and how far away from the TV you sit. Home Theatre Magazine just did a review of 6 52" rear projection TVs and the Samsung was the best. If you do not have the pixels it does not matter.

Arnie

 

I have an HD DVD player connected to a 1080p TV. Sweet. Picture is unbelievable.

 

Actually, there are broadcasts that allow 1080p to be received, lots of broadcasts in fact. Most movies broadcast in 1080i originate as a 1080p source. The 1080p material is converted to 1080i for broadcast. The TV then, with its deinterlacers, can convert this back to the oringal 1080p material. Pretty much any movie on HBO HD or Showtime HD is a 1080p movie.

The resolution of 1080p is 1920 x 1080. 720p is 1368 x 720. All current 1080p DLP's use a Wobulaton technique invented by HP. The benefit of this is that the screen door effect is completely elimated on the 1080p models vs the 720p models, which alone would make me go to a 1080p model.

-- Michael

 

There is actually much more 1080p material out therer then most realize. Check my post right above this...

I think from a quality perspective Samsung is probably the best for DLP. But, certainly. Mitsu and Toshiba are no slouches. You would probably do well with any of them. They all use the same basic DLP technology from Texas Instruments, so apart from extra functionality (TV Guide, Picture in Pictuer, dual tuners, etc...) and aesthetics of the set the picture won't be terribly different betweeen them.

I would tend to stick to a 1080p DLP. 1080p in the size you are looking at will make a difference and the 1080p sets get rid of the screen door effect that the 720p sets have.

-- Michael

 

Personally, I would not worry about a 1080p set yet...

There really isn't enough content to make it worth it. Of course if money isn't an option then yea, go for it...

Normal HD broadcasts are not 1080p. Only DVDs and such will support 1080p for a whole to come. In todays HDTV broadcasts, there just isnt enough bandwidth to support 1080p.

In 5 years you will move this TV to the game room anyway and be looking for a new set. Take advantage of the massive sales that will happen on HDTVs pre-Super Bowl and be happy. You eye most likely won't notive a diff.

Also, as someone suggested, check out AVS forums. More knowlede there than anywhere...

 

Thank you gentlemen, I appreciate the help.

 

i have the samsung brand in a 56" dlp and 2 52" lcd's and they are great.the sony xbr is awsome as well

 

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Have you looked at the Sony SXRD sets? Worth a look.

 

HDTV prices have been falling and are about to accelerate. Rear projection DLP and LCD sets are likely to decline another 1k on average for the following reasons. There were some pretty amazing announcements at CES this year. Visio (available direct and at Costco, Circuit City possibly) announced a 60inch 720p native resolution 1080i capable plasma for 3k, which after a month or two will likely be $2700-2800. If they follow their typical pricing model. That isn't the biggest news though as Philips announced a 63 inch Plasma with 1080p and I believe the DCDI chipset from Farojida (sorry about the spelling) for $3500. Visio is already offering a 47inch 1080P flat pannel LCD at Costco for $1650 incredible picture very bright, although I think Samsungs 46 inch 1080P LCD looks better but at almost double the cost. I know you want the set for the superbowl, but if you can hold off 4 months your going to see a sharp decline in HDTV pricing as Visio's pricing is really causing the other manufacturers to drop price. I'm probably going to get the Philips set when it comes out. If your going to keep the set for 5 years you'll probably want a 1080P set. Direct TV is supposed to have 100 HD channels by the end of the year. The broadcasters are going to ramp up HD content this year since market pentration for HD sets is now at critical mass 16% and price has fallen to the point where most Americans can now afford an HD set (sub 1k). 1080P content as mentioned before is limited to Blue-Ray and HD DVD discs, but its only a matter of time before broadcasters offer content at 1080P its a bandwidth/cost issue.

 

I have that exact TV and it is excellent. Hook it up to a nice surround sound and you are all set.

 

I am off to Costco today to see what they have. I have since learned that there is a newer Mitsu DLP model 65732 that is the diamond series. Of the sets I have seen, the Plasma pic quality is substantially better than the DLP but not wanting to pay for it.

Whoever mentioned the new Sony, yes I have seen it and it has an amazing picture.

I am going to buy a set this week and will buy another later in the year so whatever I buy now will be moved to my bedroom. Hopefully I can get into a 60 something Plasma later. I will say the pic quality on the Vizio sets is no where near as good as the name brand Plasmas. At this point I'd rather pay for a high end DLP than a low end Plasma.

Comments are great and have been very helpful.

 

From some more updated info I've read... the Phillips 1080p 63" set will be around $5,500 retail and the 720p 63" set will be $3,500. This is all speculation.

Also, the DirecTV 100 HD channels is deceiving since most of those channels will be local HD channels in the larger cities across the country. When they only had MPEG2, they only had local HD in NYC and LA market.