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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Wow, very nice pics photosteve!!
 
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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yea i too witnessed the "5er" incident and i completely agree with bmwpower in that an apology was certainly needed, however the situation could have been handled more maturely on both parts. the photographer was taking a picture with his back faced towards the 5er as the driver was reversing into a spot. hitting him was clearly unintentional and yes he should have apologized, however, considering the manner in which the photographer dramatically retaliated, tempers flared and the driver refused to cohere to an apology. eventually things simmered and in the end thankfully no one was hurt.

to the remark regarding the "punks laughing;" as one of the bystanders i can confidently say that this was no laughing matter and non of us found the situation amusing as there was no laughter on our part. i sincerely apologize on my behalf if our behavior was looked upon in that manner.
 
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Hello Forum,

I would like to explain the incident which had occurred at the car meet last Saturday. I would like to start off by saying that I have been coming to these meets and have been meeting very interesting people. For those of you who have met me know that I am a very nice guy and would not harm anyone. The incident started when I was about to back into a spot, I was standing waiting for the camera guy to finish taking his pictures, when he finished i pulled up and started to back in. As I was reversing he came closer to my car and I came literally 2 inches from hitting him, but I never touched him. There was a group of people that came to me after he had yelled at me and told me that I didnt even touch him. No one said that I ever hit him because that was completely false. After that he came to me SCREAMING at the top of his lungs demanding an apology. He not only cursed at me, he threatened me and spat in my face while he was screaming at me while I repeatedly asked him to calm down and to talk normally. As I asked him to do that he repeated to threaten me and continued to scream at me while he inched closer to me. I understand that an apology goes a long way and it would have been the right thing to apologize, even for something I didnt do but for an individual to attack you verbally and get nose to nose with you is extremely out of line. I want to apologize to the forum that you had to see this at one of your meets but I also hope you guys understand what really happened and not what you heard. To the remark regarding the "punks laughing" we never laughed about that since I was extremely offened that I had been threatened in a meet I had been going to for a while but have never seen him before. As I said, I had waited about 10 seconds for him to finish taking pictures and then I pulled in the spot. Again I apologize to the forum and just wanted to tell you guys my side of the story as well as many other bystanders' version of it. That is why I felt that I should sign up to this forum and explain the situation instead of waving it off and not caring about it. Thanks again for listening and would like to say the meet was AWESOME and I enjoyed it! Thanks for all of you who came out!
 
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Oh well...

Nice turn out and thanks for the pictures! Panamera Turbo look pretty sweet. I'll try to wake my drunk *** up for the next meet. Cheers!
 
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Stupid photographers always getting in the damn way! Who invited them anyway!
 
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jashy247
Hello Forum,

I would like to explain the incident which had occurred at the car meet last Saturday. I would like to start off by saying that I have been coming to these meets and have been meeting very interesting people. For those of you who have met me know that I am a very nice guy and would not harm anyone. The incident started when I was about to back into a spot, I was standing waiting for the camera guy to finish taking his pictures, when he finished i pulled up and started to back in. As I was reversing he came closer to my car and I came literally 2 inches from hitting him, but I never touched him. There was a group of people that came to me after he had yelled at me and told me that I didnt even touch him. No one said that I ever hit him because that was completely false. After that he came to me SCREAMING at the top of his lungs demanding an apology. He not only cursed at me, he threatened me and spat in my face while he was screaming at me while I repeatedly asked him to calm down and to talk normally. As I asked him to do that he repeated to threaten me and continued to scream at me while he inched closer to me. I understand that an apology goes a long way and it would have been the right thing to apologize, even for something I didnt do but for an individual to attack you verbally and get nose to nose with you is extremely out of line. I want to apologize to the forum that you had to see this at one of your meets but I also hope you guys understand what really happened and not what you heard. To the remark regarding the "punks laughing" we never laughed about that since I was extremely offened that I had been threatened in a meet I had been going to for a while but have never seen him before. As I said, I had waited about 10 seconds for him to finish taking pictures and then I pulled in the spot. Again I apologize to the forum and just wanted to tell you guys my side of the story as well as many other bystanders' version of it. That is why I felt that I should sign up to this forum and explain the situation instead of waving it off and not caring about it. Thanks again for listening and would like to say the meet was AWESOME and I enjoyed it! Thanks for all of you who came out!
It was certainly blown out of proportion by the other guy. He shouldn't have screamed at you. But he was mad that you guys were laughing at him. There were about 10 of you and one of him. I even heard you guys laughing about it and even a few saying that there's 10 of you guys and just him- I expect that meant you guys were prepared to take him on. I witnessed you talking down to and mocking this guy. You stated to him that you refused to apologise while joking with your group and didn't come across offended.
That's why I referred to your group as "punks". That was a generalization that I should not have used, but I'm sorry but your crowd came across as such. The other guy should have been calm about it.
Thankfully, the situation didn't progress any futher.
We should all be courteous to each other and show respect so that these meets attract good people.
 

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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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AWESOME! My first 6speed meet, and this? Can't wait for the next one.
 
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Let's try and keep these meets civil not only for ourselves but also our surroundings, remember it takes just one complaint.

Again I had a good time and I'm hoping we can keep this momentum going throughout the course of the yr.

Not sure about you lot but I have a ridicous amount of mods planned for my go-kart on top of what it already has.

Berkster start planning the season yo!!!
 
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As an observer of the entire event, I must say that both parties are at blame here. Yes the 530 should not have swiped the other person with his car and he should've quickly apologized. However, the response from the person who was swiped was completely over the top and out of line as well. He came up to the owner of the 530 and demanded an apology with a raised voice. Neither party handled the situation well, but it is over and lets just continue to enjoy these meets and the amazing cars
Does this person just happen to be one of your friends?
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It was certainly blown out of proportion by the other guy. He shouldn't have screamed at you. But he was mad that you guys were laughing at him. There were about 10 of you and one of him. I even heard you guys laughing about it and even a few saying that there's 10 of you guys and just him- I expect that meant you guys were prepared to take him on. I witnessed you talking down to and mocking this guy. You stated to him that you refused to apologise while joking with your group and didn't come across offended.
That's why I referred to your group as "punks". That was a generalization that I should not have used, but I'm sorry but your crowd came across as such. The other guy should have been calm about it.
Thankfully, the situation didn't progress any futher.
We should all be courteous to each other and show respect so that these meets attract good people.
I didn't see this happen nor did I hear about it until the posts on this forum. If what you are saying is indeed true it is very immature. If you almost hit someone you should get out of your car and apologize immediately. For a group of people to laugh about it and say theres ten of us and one of him shows very little class and is unacceptable. It may have been tolerated on the elementary school playground but not amongst adults.
 
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Ken, Hi. How's your back? Will you be doing some track events this year? Al

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Oh well...

Nice turn out and thanks for the pictures! Panamera Turbo look pretty sweet. I'll try to wake my drunk *** up for the next meet. Cheers!
 
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Well exactly, you didnt hear about it nor did you witness ANYTHING, thus you may not know the full details. Its not like i did a burn out and was going so fast and almost hit him, I was going less than 1 mile an hour and people usually get out of the way when a car approaches them, instead of coming closer. What exactly did you mean by "your friends", just because the group I associate myself with doesn't like you and this certain aspect dissatisfies you, doesn't mean you can write on the thread about how much of a mistake I made. I ask that you not judge a book by its cover. I guarantee that you would not have posting anything if you didnt know I was "in that group". Well, "our group" has been friends for many years and we have manners and respect, but you didnt know this. I agree that it was both of our faults and I didnt see A SINGLE POST of the other guy apologizing to the forum, so why exactly are you criticizing me? He didnt admit fault but I did, and I strongly apologized to the forum even though I didnt hit him with my car.


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Does this person just happen to be one of your friends?

I didn't see this happen nor did I hear about it until the posts on this forum. If what you are saying is indeed true it is very immature. If you almost hit someone you should get out of your car and apologize immediately. For a group of people to laugh about it and say theres ten of us and one of him shows very little class and is unacceptable. It may have been tolerated on the elementary school playground but not amongst adults.
 
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Well exactly, you didnt hear about it nor did you witness ANYTHING, thus you may not know the full details. Its not like i did a burn out and was going so fast and almost hit him, I was going less than 1 mile an hour and people usually get out of the way when a car approaches them, instead of coming closer. What exactly did you mean by "your friends", just because the group I associate myself with doesn't like you and this certain aspect dissatisfies you, doesn't mean you can write on the thread about how much of a mistake I made. I ask that you not judge a book by its cover. I guarantee that you would not have posting anything if you didnt know I was "in that group". Well, "our group" has been friends for many years and we have manners and respect, but you didnt know this. I agree that it was both of our faults and I didnt see A SINGLE POST of the other guy apologizing to the forum, so why exactly are you criticizing me? He didnt admit fault but I did, and I strongly apologized to the forum even though I didnt hit him with my car.
Just let blackbenz go. He was banned on E46Fanatics.com for constantly picking fights with people...
 

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Originally Posted by jashy247
Well exactly, you didnt hear about it nor did you witness ANYTHING, thus you may not know the full details. Its not like i did a burn out and was going so fast and almost hit him, I was going less than 1 mile an hour and people usually get out of the way when a car approaches them, instead of coming closer. What exactly did you mean by "your friends", just because the group I associate myself with doesn't like you and this certain aspect dissatisfies you, doesn't mean you can write on the thread about how much of a mistake I made. I ask that you not judge a book by its cover. I guarantee that you would not have posting anything if you didnt know I was "in that group". Well, "our group" has been friends for many years and we have manners and respect, but you didnt know this. I agree that it was both of our faults and I didnt see A SINGLE POST of the other guy apologizing to the forum, so why exactly are you criticizing me? He didnt admit fault but I did, and I strongly apologized to the forum even though I didnt hit him with my car.
I clearly stated I wasn't there and I said I was basing my post off of what people have said. Not sure why you are singling me out for posting how I feel about it when others have as well. I didn't even know you were part of the group because I don't even know who you are. Good guess though huh? I don't know who the other guy that almost got hit is either. I just know that if you almost hit somebody you apologize and you dont try to act tough and laugh at someone because you are with a big group Saying you have "manners and respect" doesn't make it so. As they say, actions speak louder than words.
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Just let blackbenz go. He was banned on E46Fanatics.com for constantly picking fights with people...
Actually thats not true, I was only temp banned from the MAR section (not even all of E46) because you reported me for saying you were spoonfed Want me to go post on E46 right now and take a screen shot of it? I don't go over there anymore because of people like you. But unfortunately you found your way over here
 
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dont bring that stuff to this board..thread closed
 
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