Production Base GT-R to hit 7:24 at the Nurburgring in April 09
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yup, i'm a noob at de's... and we got on drag racing, because you pretty much had the same position when i mentioned about a person i knew who ran 11.7's all day. well now that i've beaten that time consistently and repeatedly, i'm just finding ways that you've been incorrect about your assumptions of advertised times vs practical times.
i've only run about 100 laps around vir, and this noob after one event can run less than 2:10 at vir in a stock car.
i don't give a crap about what somebody else can do/not do in my car. i know what i can do in it. you do not appear to know what the gt-r is capable of first hand... so you read magazines (paper or online) to find out what others are doing - mag racing.
i know i can do 11.4's in the 1/4 stock.
i know i can run 2:10-15's all day around vir.
what can you do in the gt-r? or do you need a magazine to tell you?
sorry, man... obviously you know i'm just giving you a hard time. but your position is entertaining.
i've mentioned this on another forum as well (there is a great discussion going on with on of the authors/reviewers), but suzuki ran over 2000 laps over 5 years, and had one great lap. i don't think he could repeat it within the next 500 laps.
hell, even michael shumacher would put down a qualifying lap, and then run better during the race - sometimes 3 - 4secs quicker, after only 50-70 laps or so around a 3 mile track.
now imagine that he is running on a single 13 mile track with one car for 4 years. you think it's possible he could improve 25 secs on one lap after thousands of laps?
i think the guy who ran the viper acr would lower his/her time even more if he/she had the same amount of seat time as suzuki.
i've only run about 100 laps around vir, and this noob after one event can run less than 2:10 at vir in a stock car.
i don't give a crap about what somebody else can do/not do in my car. i know what i can do in it. you do not appear to know what the gt-r is capable of first hand... so you read magazines (paper or online) to find out what others are doing - mag racing.
i know i can do 11.4's in the 1/4 stock.
i know i can run 2:10-15's all day around vir.
what can you do in the gt-r? or do you need a magazine to tell you?
sorry, man... obviously you know i'm just giving you a hard time. but your position is entertaining.
i've mentioned this on another forum as well (there is a great discussion going on with on of the authors/reviewers), but suzuki ran over 2000 laps over 5 years, and had one great lap. i don't think he could repeat it within the next 500 laps.
hell, even michael shumacher would put down a qualifying lap, and then run better during the race - sometimes 3 - 4secs quicker, after only 50-70 laps or so around a 3 mile track.
now imagine that he is running on a single 13 mile track with one car for 4 years. you think it's possible he could improve 25 secs on one lap after thousands of laps?
i think the guy who ran the viper acr would lower his/her time even more if he/she had the same amount of seat time as suzuki.
And you may want to get your story straight with what you posted on NAGTROC which says a 2:15 with a Cobb tune.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=28637
Originally Posted by Scotts-GTR
Please post your laptimes, confirmed by a racing organization or on video, below.
Lime Rock Park:
1:01.8 Scotts GTR - Cobb Tuned, Cobb Suspension
1:04 Scotts GTR - Stock
Road Atlanta:
1:36 Sharif (Stock All Weather Run Flats)
VIR
Full Course: 2:05.5 Underpressure (Continental Contisport-3, JRZ Triple, Carbotech XP-12's, MA Motorsports exhaust)
Full Course: 2:07 Sharif (19 inch Toyo R888's)
Full Course: 2:15 Jaspergtr (Cobb tune)
Full Course: 2:18 MC (HKS Midpipe, HKS Filters)
New Hampshire Motor Speedway
1:18.4 mgeldart GTR Stock (Double Chicane)
1:32 Scotts GTR Stock (Double Chicane)
Thunderhill (incuding Cyclone):
2:05 ChrisN; Fully Stock
Lime Rock Park:
1:01.8 Scotts GTR - Cobb Tuned, Cobb Suspension
1:04 Scotts GTR - Stock
Road Atlanta:
1:36 Sharif (Stock All Weather Run Flats)
VIR
Full Course: 2:05.5 Underpressure (Continental Contisport-3, JRZ Triple, Carbotech XP-12's, MA Motorsports exhaust)
Full Course: 2:07 Sharif (19 inch Toyo R888's)
Full Course: 2:15 Jaspergtr (Cobb tune)
Full Course: 2:18 MC (HKS Midpipe, HKS Filters)
New Hampshire Motor Speedway
1:18.4 mgeldart GTR Stock (Double Chicane)
1:32 Scotts GTR Stock (Double Chicane)
Thunderhill (incuding Cyclone):
2:05 ChrisN; Fully Stock
Just saying, get your story straight. It's not like that was last year, that event was in February, so even if you went back to VIR, I doubt you did so without your Cobb tune. And even if you did, slightly even less likely you did a sub 2:10.
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lol! - 2:15 was with the messed up cobb tune (which actually ended up being slower than stock). had you read my diary that closely, you'd know that.
i put down 2:15's because that's what i can prove (with video), and i had the bad tune when i did it. i've done 2:09 once, a few 2:10's (skipped over 2:11's), and a few 2:12's.
i'm well aware of the math (2:10 does not equal 2:15).
like i said 2:15 (that can be proven), and i believe that's faster than you've ever taken a gt-r around that track.
*edit: i've since taken that tune off. without the tune, i reached speeds of 160mph on the backstretch, and with the tune, i couldn't see over 148mph. take it for what it's worth. don't believe me, i don't care... i've no reason to lie to you. and i'll gladly give you a ride next time i go, so you can see for yourself.
i put down 2:15's because that's what i can prove (with video), and i had the bad tune when i did it. i've done 2:09 once, a few 2:10's (skipped over 2:11's), and a few 2:12's.
i'm well aware of the math (2:10 does not equal 2:15).
like i said 2:15 (that can be proven), and i believe that's faster than you've ever taken a gt-r around that track.
*edit: i've since taken that tune off. without the tune, i reached speeds of 160mph on the backstretch, and with the tune, i couldn't see over 148mph. take it for what it's worth. don't believe me, i don't care... i've no reason to lie to you. and i'll gladly give you a ride next time i go, so you can see for yourself.
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Let me get this right, so you had a cobb tune that was slower than stock but no times on video except for 2:15...................
You belong in a Nissan, in fact you should go and work for them in their Ring PR segment.
You belong in a Nissan, in fact you should go and work for them in their Ring PR segment.
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Well, I'd say it's so far away from one another that Night and Day is the best description. The GTR has been my DD for a few months now and I've had no problems. The mother handles everything I've thrown at it. Rain, shine, top speed runs and god forsaken FL traffic all with a smile. It's nasty fast to ~100 or 120, when the gear multiplication ends for you gearheads... I'm used to the nasty all motor pull of the Z06 but the R35 redefines just about every category of an automobile.
Honestly, all I can really say is Jeremy Clarkson's statement:
"They haven't created a new car, they've created a new yardstick." or however it goes specifically.
anywho, I'm just an automobile fanatic and I love fast cars and everything that comes along with it. I'm basically an F'in celebrity around MickeyMousetown for my damn car, that's the only thing that still doesn't bother me much. I'm passionate and could go on all day.
But the R35 is just a new way of how to build a high performance automobile.
Honestly, all I can really say is Jeremy Clarkson's statement:
"They haven't created a new car, they've created a new yardstick." or however it goes specifically.
anywho, I'm just an automobile fanatic and I love fast cars and everything that comes along with it. I'm basically an F'in celebrity around MickeyMousetown for my damn car, that's the only thing that still doesn't bother me much. I'm passionate and could go on all day.
But the R35 is just a new way of how to build a high performance automobile.
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it boosted 7psi instead of the factory 10.5-11psi.
the 2:15 is the only video that i have. because i didn't get the camera until right before that event. sorry i haven't met all of your requirements.
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Don't blame me because of your conflicting information, so I'm left to assume you've been back in the last month and or ran that time at the same event after realizing the problem but managed to get only the slower time on video..............................
If you were reading what you are typing you'd see the folly in it.
If you were reading what you are typing you'd see the folly in it.
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Don't blame me because of your conflicting information, so I'm left to assume you've been back in the last month and or ran that time at the same event after realizing the problem but managed to get only the slower time on video..............................
If you were reading what you are typing you'd see the folly in it.
If you were reading what you are typing you'd see the folly in it.
and on the day i recorded the 2:15. i didn't know it was a 2:15 until that night. it was 2/23 at the gt-r event. i ran stock in the morning, and had those personal bests (clocked inside the car). saw the times i was running, and flashed the cobb custom map. i did not want to think about time when i was running (usually that hurts my times because i'm not concentrating on the next turn), so i recorded it, and didn't time it, until later that night, and i was like 'wtf????' anyway, i had a passenger with me for those two runs and both of them told me i didn't hit 150mph - at all.
i guess it only seems like a folly, because i haven't told you every single little detail of every single lapping session that i did/did not record.
i don't mind sharing stories about my good/bad experiences at the track, but when it comes to proof, i have to divulge - 2:15 with cobb tune. i didn't specify what that tune was, and i'm not going to submit a time that i can't prove for record. it doesn't mean it didn't happen. it just means i can't prove it.
*edit: in bold
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heavychevy - i'll summarize over a month's worth of my frustration for you.
before tune - (without launching) my best 2.0 60ft 11.7 @ ~119mph.
after tcm update - (launching) 1.8 60ft 11.4 @ 117mph
after custom cobb tune - (launching) 1.8 60ft 11.5 @ 116mph (same day as above - 30 minutes apart)
edit: i've had some other times without launching that have gotten me 121-122mphs (b clutch point was set to 0, let off brake and mashed the gas)... this was inbetween updates 1 & 3 (in reality was 1 & 2 - but i went in before the recall became a recall... i'm sure you understood that).
before tune - (without launching) my best 2.0 60ft 11.7 @ ~119mph.
after tcm update - (launching) 1.8 60ft 11.4 @ 117mph
after custom cobb tune - (launching) 1.8 60ft 11.5 @ 116mph (same day as above - 30 minutes apart)
edit: i've had some other times without launching that have gotten me 121-122mphs (b clutch point was set to 0, let off brake and mashed the gas)... this was inbetween updates 1 & 3 (in reality was 1 & 2 - but i went in before the recall became a recall... i'm sure you understood that).
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Can't you upload the GT-R lap data to a computer or something like that?
There is no way that tune, that could still trap 116 mph cost you 6 seconds a best lap unless there were other problems than loss of power.
There is no way that tune, that could still trap 116 mph cost you 6 seconds a best lap unless there were other problems than loss of power.
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that's why i had the good speed, but the time didn't improve... i was quicker down low, but slower up top. and i don't spend too much of my time on vir in 1st gear. so in gears 3 and 4 which is where most of my time is spent there, i have less power than stock. a lot less.
i'd rather save the discussion about my specific tuning failures for anothet thread. we can use the 2:15 time for all i care.
second time at the track - 3rd track event. plenty of guys were running below 2:20 (a bunch of first timers). my situation was rather unique (because of my attempt at the custom tune), but the car is that easy to drive.
i am still a novice (and will be for sometime). i've conceded that this is the wrong car for me to learn to drive on road courses. i'd be better off with a miata or something (my instructor agrees).