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997C2SM 01-23-2011 09:35 AM

Xkr175
 
Anyone driven this car. Looks to be mainly cosmetic changes and top speed unlimited. Very interesting car.

Smoking tire had a nice review and Matt on there really loved it.

Pugman 02-04-2011 12:59 PM

I got my XKR175 in late August and am loving it. Yes, it is mostly a trim package, but a very beautiful one. The higher top speed and limited production make for good conversation.

The Smoking Tire video review pretty much sums up how I feel about the car. This definitely is not your old man's Jaguar.

997C2SM 02-24-2011 06:34 AM

Yeah new XKR-S coming too. Do you have any pics of your 175?

Pugman 03-04-2011 06:42 AM

Hers' a pic of my XKR175 on its first road trip in October (Great Smoky Mountains). I have nearly 10,000 miles on it already. It's a fantastic touring car--comfortable and quiet on the long stretches and a growling beast on the twisties.

The trim kit on the 175 really suits the car. Based on the pics I've seen of the new XKR-S, I don't think I'll be having any buyer's remorse...the S seems overdone, especially the spoiler.

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...ncy/XKR175.jpg

TaylorMade411 03-04-2011 07:46 AM

Very nice! I agree the spoiler and busy front end are gross and ruins what makes the XKR what it is.

I plan on picking up an 11' XKR this year but I hate that there is such a lack of XKR presence on this board as well as the jaguarforums board.

I depend on the much much smarter people than myself on these forums to make my vehicle ownership a much better and smoother experience.

Pugman - if you could be so kind to keep us updated on how things are going with the XKR; I'd be very thankfull!

Pugman 03-04-2011 09:23 AM

I will try to post updates from time to time. I agree...not a lot of message-board activity for the XKR (probably due mostly to the demographics of the typical Jag buyer).

I cross-shopped pretty much everything in the XKR's segment (and then some), and I don't regret my decision at all. This is my first Jag and it appears to be a very high-quality piece. The build quality is impressive...maybe not quite at Porsche levels, but certainly competitive. So far, I'm impressed with the economy, reliability and ease of ownership. Most of all, I'm thrilled with how better it performs than I had imagined.

ice350 03-15-2011 08:54 PM

I really dig the XKR and think it's one of the best buys on the market. 510hp and semi-exotic looks for 100K. Add the 4 year warranty and this car makes it silly to spend 300K on an exotic you can't drive because you're afraid to put miles on it or it will need repairs.

I would love to see a set of aftermarket wheels on it.

ice350 03-16-2011 11:02 AM

SOme pics of XK's with custom wheels.

http://www.minagallery.com/merchant2...-xkr-side1.jpg

ice350 03-16-2011 11:05 AM

Couldn't get the other pics to download.

rayman89 03-23-2011 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by 997C2SM (Post 3102469)
Anyone driven this car. Looks to be mainly cosmetic changes and top speed unlimited. Very interesting car.

Smoking tire had a nice review and Matt on there really loved it.

The new xkr-s sounds amazing and it shifts like no-mans business, the 175 was the last hurrah before the new facelift xk comes but the 175 is definetly a brilliant car. The interior is in debate at the company, but you'll see why soon

fcar348 03-30-2011 06:14 PM

i told my business partner to get one of these but he went for an aston for the 'prestige' of the brand. anyway i love these cars and wonder how it would stack up vs a maserati s coupe?

DRLC6 04-10-2011 11:56 AM

I really want a new XKR I may trade my 10 BMW 650 on one? How well do they handle? Is is fairly quiet in the cabin? How well is the stereo system? Is there any mechanical differences between the XKR and the 125? I really like the looks and this XKR seems to have positive reviews. Any info is helpful.Pugman your car looks great.:D

rayman89 04-11-2011 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by DRLC6 (Post 3174094)
I really want a new XKR I may trade my 10 BMW 650 on one? How well do they handle? Is is fairly quiet in the cabin? How well is the stereo system? Is there any mechanical differences between the XKR and the 125? I really like the looks and this XKR seems to have positive reviews. Any info is helpful.Pugman your car looks great.:D

I'll answer your questions one by one :D. They are one of the best handling gt's in the world, very quiet in the cabin, can't really appreciate the roar of the V8, unless the windows are down. Stereo system is very easy to use and speakers are by Bower and Wilkins (if that means anything), mechanically there is no difference between a normal 'R' and the 175, the 175 has been de-restricted and aero package has been applied so it can hit 175 mph.

Hope this helps

rayman89 04-11-2011 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by fcar348 (Post 3164786)
i told my business partner to get one of these but he went for an aston for the 'prestige' of the brand. anyway i love these cars and wonder how it would stack up vs a maserati s coupe?

The R is faster all round but the maser sounds much nicer

TaylorMade411 04-11-2011 07:10 AM

LOL, lets keep this post going! I think I've read every review out there on the on 2010/2011 XKR...but at the same time with such a lack of new model XKR owners hanging around on the enthusiast communities I havent had a chance to talk to any actual owners. This thread is a big help! Thanks a lot guys.

Based on all my research the only bad things I've heard is the lucas electrical issues/reliability (which isnt a big deal because 2011 have the 5 year warranty/service cov) The ride is slightly harsh (good news to my ears because like rayman said the focus is on handling not the comfort) and that the touch screen media interface is pretty slow on stupid.

All an all I think when you combine the design, the performance and throw in the 5 year platinum plan these cars are a bargin!

rayman89 04-11-2011 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by TaylorMade411 (Post 3174734)
LOL, lets keep this post going! I think I've read every review out there on the on 2010/2011 XKR...but at the same time with such a lack of new model XKR owners hanging around on the enthusiast communities I havent had a chance to talk to any actual owners. This thread is a big help! Thanks a lot guys.

Based on all my research the only bad things I've heard is the lucas electrical issues/reliability (which isnt a big deal because 2011 have the 5 year warranty/service cov) The ride is slightly harsh (good news to my ears because like rayman said the focus is on handling not the comfort) and that the touch screen media interface is pretty slow on stupid.

All an all I think when you combine the design, the performance and throw in the 5 year platinum plan these cars are a bargin!

Hear, hear lol, your right, 500+bhp for over £70k?, bargain. Obviously rear seats are not for human use, mainly for tax purposes in the U.S. I've driven one for a short distance, press dynamic mode and the throttle response quickens up, blip it too quick and the rears light up, very very tail happy

DRLC6 04-11-2011 08:16 AM

Thanks for the info. I think I found my replacement for my 6 series. I will start looking next month for a new or slightly used XKR.Man the more I read and see these XKRs the more I like them. Do you know if the 2012 models will have any sugnificant changes? I already know about the S car but I am talking about the XKR. I am looking forward to my first Jaguar.Thnaks again for the help.:D



Originally Posted by rayman89 (Post 3174616)
I'll answer your questions one by one :D. They are one of the best handling gt's in the world, very quiet in the cabin, can't really appreciate the roar of the V8, unless the windows are down. Stereo system is very easy to use and speakers are by Bower and Wilkins (if that means anything), mechanically there is no difference between a normal 'R' and the 175, the 175 has been de-restricted and aero package has been applied so it can hit 175 mph.

Hope this helps


ice350 04-11-2011 08:44 AM

This is the car I've been targeting for my next ride. Like someone else said, there is very little activity from owners on any forum.
As much as I like about what I see and hear, reliability is my #1 value in purchasing a car. I thought with Ford being the former owner, these cars would be a lot more reliable than they were pre-Ford. I met a guy who works at a dealership and he says the cars are very bad in reliability. He actually said they were terrible. Can anyone else share some information? I would be so disappointed if they were as bad as he described. I also met an XF owner who said his and all current Jags are crappy. What gives?

rayman89 04-11-2011 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by DRLC6 (Post 3174794)
Thanks for the info. I think I found my replacement for my 6 series. I will start looking next month for a new or slightly used XKR.Man the more I read and see these XKRs the more I like them. Do you know if the 2012 models will have any sugnificant changes? I already know about the S car but I am talking about the XKR. I am looking forward to my first Jaguar.Thnaks again for the help.:D

From what i understand, the 12 model year cars will look the same as the xkr-s2, the aero package will be an optional extra

rayman89 04-11-2011 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by ice350 (Post 3174824)
This is the car I've been targeting for my next ride. Like someone else said, there is very little activity from owners on any forum.
As much as I like about what I see and hear, reliability is my #1 value in purchasing a car. I thought with Ford being the former owner, these cars would be a lot more reliable than they were pre-Ford. I met a guy who works at a dealership and he says the cars are very bad in reliability. He actually said they were terrible. Can anyone else share some information? I would be so disappointed if they were as bad as he described. I also met an XF owner who said his and all current Jags are crappy. What gives?

.............where to begin...........when ford took over, they thought they can cut corners and build cars much cheaper, overall generating bigger profit margins............things like jag engines with ford gearboxes, mondeo electrics etc etc etc and like the mechanic said, quality dropped like no-mans business. Gearboxes couldn't handle the torque, electrics lasting short periods of time, you know the drill. The way things are going now, obviously with new owners you want to fix your damaged reputation so things have improved massively. Tata men trying everything they can to separate from the ford brand and it has been going well. With any brand you’re going to get issues, it's how they handle it, I know for a fact BMW and Mercedes ain't bullit proof, they charge a massive bill without answers. Trust, the way Jag is moving forward, there products have shot up in quality.

Pugman 04-11-2011 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by DRLC6 (Post 3174794)
Thanks for the info. I think I found my replacement for my 6 series. I will start looking next month for a new or slightly used XKR.Man the more I read and see these XKRs the more I like them. Do you know if the 2012 models will have any sugnificant changes? I already know about the S car but I am talking about the XKR. I am looking forward to my first Jaguar.Thnaks again for the help.:D

You will LOVE this car. For me, it's the perfect balance between raw speed and sublime comfort. I wouldn't worry too much about reliability on a 2010-12 model. My 175 has been excellent, with almost 12,000 miles already. My only concern is that I'm neglecting driving my other cars, because the Jag is so alluring.

Quality-wise, the XKR seems to be as good or better than its competition. I wouldn't let Jag's "old ghosts" haunt your decision. Besides there's free maintenance and a long warranty. There have been some issues with the new XJ and the XF, but since the XK has been in production the longest, most of the kinks seem to have been worked out (this, according to my service advisor).

If you get a new one, make sure you sign up for the free Jaguar R Performance Driving Academy. It's one of the best things I've done.

DRLC6 04-11-2011 02:12 PM

I agree the warranty will take care of any possible issues that could arise. My wife has a 2010MB ML SUV the first week the rear went out yes they repaired without any questions but as with any thing mechanical no matter where it comes from problems may arise, it is all how it is handled. I went to look at a 175 today and was blown away actually rode as good or better than my 650 but with way more get up and go!!! Man I miss the torque and power.
My wife will be ready to trade her Merc in October if I can hold out until then we will both be ready maybe a new RR for her and new Jag XKR for me. Until then I may go crazy waiting. I will continue to research and learn about these great cars. Maybe by then I could get a better deal on an 11? Thanks.



Originally Posted by Pugman (Post 3175015)
You will LOVE this car. For me, it's the perfect balance between raw speed and sublime comfort. I wouldn't worry too much about reliability on a 2010-12 model. My 175 has been excellent, with almost 12,000 miles already. My only concern is that I'm neglecting driving my other cars, because the Jag is so alluring.

Quality-wise, the XKR seems to be as good or better than its competition. I wouldn't let Jag's "old ghosts" haunt your decision. Besides there's free maintenance and a long warranty. There have been some issues with the new XJ and the XF, but since the XK has been in production the longest, most of the kinks seem to have been worked out (this, according to my service advisor).

If you get a new one, make sure you sign up for the free Jaguar R Performance Driving Academy. It's one of the best things I've done.


ice350 04-11-2011 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by rayman89 (Post 3174933)
.............where to begin...........when ford took over, they thought they can cut corners and build cars much cheaper, overall generating bigger profit margins............things like jag engines with ford gearboxes, mondeo electrics etc etc etc and like the mechanic said, quality dropped like no-mans business. Gearboxes couldn't handle the torque, electrics lasting short periods of time, you know the drill. The way things are going now, obviously with new owners you want to fix your damaged reputation so things have improved massively. Tata men trying everything they can to separate from the ford brand and it has been going well. With any brand you’re going to get issues, it's how they handle it, I know for a fact BMW and Mercedes ain't bullit proof, they charge a massive bill without answers. Trust, the way Jag is moving forward, there products have shot up in quality.

I hope you're right about Tata restoring....actually, they would be bringing quality for the first time in the life of Jaguar. The guy who works at the dealer said the parts still have Fomoco (Ford Motor Co) on them so there is still some changing to be done.

rayman89 04-12-2011 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by ice350 (Post 3175481)
I hope you're right about Tata restoring....actually, they would be bringing quality for the first time in the life of Jaguar. The guy who works at the dealer said the parts still have Fomoco (Ford Motor Co) on them so there is still some changing to be done.

Transition will take time, but they are doing what they can to seperate from ford, one of the reasons why they're coming out with a sports car.

rayman89 04-12-2011 01:46 AM

Just driven the new black edition, it's like wolverine taking an act of celibacy, 3 weeks in. What a BEAST

DRLC6 04-12-2011 03:46 PM

Has anyone made any offers on these cars? What are you seeing being offered off of sticker? If you have bought what did you get off the sticker price? I found one XKR 175 demo the owner of the dealership put 1900 miles on the car. They tell me they will make a good deal on the unit? What would be a good deal? I think the sticker is 105k and change? I will go by later tonight and try to look at the sticker again. Also found another XKR non 175 with 3800 miles asking 80k..I think I want a 175 or a Black? Thanks.

Pugman 04-12-2011 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by DRLC6 (Post 3176239)
Has anyone made any offers on these cars? What are you seeing being offered off of sticker? If you have bought what did you get off the sticker price? I found one XKR 175 demo the owner of the dealership put 1900 miles on the car. They tell me they will make a good deal on the unit? What would be a good deal? I think the sticker is 105k and change? I will go by later tonight and try to look at the sticker again. Also found another XKR non 175 with 3800 miles asking 80k..I think I want a 175 or a Black? Thanks.

I got one of the first XKR175s in the country (in August) and I paid sticker price but got accessories and a set of winter wheels/tires at a good discount. I imagine there are good deals to be had now. On cars.com, it is showing that there are still around 30 for sale. Six are in Florida, so you may be able to get a decent deal. I thought all 175 of them would have sold by now, but Jaguar hasn't done a very good job promoting it.

When I bought mine, I knew that I could have gotten a HUGE discount on a 2010 regular XKR because they wanted to clear them out before the '11s arrived. I imagine you could get a similarly large discount on a regular 2011 XKR (if not now, then in a few months).

I wouldn't want one that was a demo or any of the ones they use at the racing school (which do end up being sold to retail customers)...but maybe that's just because I wanted a virgin hilarious

BRETT0429 11-11-2011 09:19 PM

I have panamera 4s for only 2300 miles on it and not loving it I'm thinking of getting a Xkr it also has 2000 miles. The 4s seems to heavy to drive and as fast as i thought, not comfy in seat or on my legs. Very hard seat I drove Xkr 175 and liked it but u never really know till it's yours any opinions on getting rid of this for that?
Thanks in advance

Pugman 11-17-2011 02:17 PM

The seats in the XKR are excellent; better than my Cayenne GTS and waaaaay better than our 2 MBs. I have a long commute and the seats are perfect for me, especially thigh support. I have long legs and many cars have seat bottoms that are too short.

I've only spent a few minutes in a P4S, but I've now logged 25,000 miles in the XKR175. They are 2 totally different vehicles: icy perfectionism with the Porsche and rowdy eccentricity with the Jaguar.

The Porsche is probably easier to drive faster, but maybe not as fun. I initially felt the XKR was too big, but it seemed to "shrink" once I got used to driving it. One thing for sure, unless you're a super-skilled driver, you don't want to fully defeat the stability control. This cat will definitely bite you! Even in full-nanny mode (there is also an intermediate "track" setting), it will wag its tail upon launch.

As far as ownership is concerned, the XKR has been excellent. Still on the first pads/rotors at 25,000 miles and dealer says they're good for several thousand more. It burns almost no oil, fuel economy is still decent (right at EPA numbers 15/22), and reliability has been good (not perfect, but close).

BRETT0429 11-17-2011 08:41 PM

How's the feel of steering wheel and the gas pedal heard it's a little weak also not to pry are u a big guy I'm 5'8" 200 a little worried about the bolster in the long run
Thanks
Brett

CHAOS236 11-18-2011 05:31 PM

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Seats are great !

Pugman 11-19-2011 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by BRETT0429 (Post 3375269)
How's the feel of steering wheel and the gas pedal heard it's a little weak also not to pry are u a big guy I'm 5'8" 200 a little worried about the bolster in the long run
Thanks
Brett

I'm 6'2" and about 220 and I fit just fine. Are you worried about the side bolsters or the seat bottom? The sides are adjustable. The seat bottom shouldn't be a problem unless you are built like a Kardashian.hilarious
Initially, I thought the steering effort was too light, but I've grown to like it. It's much better than all of the MBs I've owned, which seem to combine higher-effort with very little road feel. But the Jag is not Lexus-numb, either. The ride and steering seem perfect for what the cars is meant to be. It truly excels at long-distance driving, while still being fun enough in the twisties.

I don't know what you mean about the gas pedal. In dynamic mode and the drive selector in "sport," the throttle is veeeeery sensitive: you need a very delicate foot in high-traffic situations. In normal mode it is easier to modulate (but not as much fun).

Dr.Disaster 11-22-2011 02:39 PM

Great thread fellows please allow me to join in.

I drove a black 2011 XKR convertable new on the show room and wow what a car. My daughter wanted me to drive the new Chevy Camaro(aka Bumble Bee) and I was anxious to feel what 400+ hp was like. WEAK!!!!!!

Now the 510hp Jag was strong and sexy sounding. I thought the ride was luxurious and firm and the wind buffeting was much less than the MB 550SL with the top down. I liked the ride much better than the Porsche 911S.

I wished the seat went back another 1/2 inch before the back started tilting back up. I like to lay back a bit and have long arms and legs. It was well padded and the bolstering was not to tight. The Porsche was.

My local mechanic almost threw a b---h fit when I even mentioned Jag. He hates them and rambled on about reliability and Ford, which he hates even worse. For some reason that did not scare me off.

As I posted on another thread here the Jag did make second choice but not by much. I ended up with a nice used Bentley Continental GTC. Oh well I still love the Jag. Go Cats!

Two additional remarks they offered the car for 94K when sticker was 103. I could not buy the XKR-S in that blue color.


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