where can I download the manual? thanks

 

MBZ's push button pops out (so you can insert the key) and looks like it cost $0.11 :/

The porsche dummy key is at least shaped like a key, has some heft, and you can put it in your pocket. The MBZ button is like a tiddlywink with jagged slots on the back of it.

 

I ordered without the keyless. Those that have it, is it worth reconsidering? Cool, yes. Very usefull for the $$$$$$? Don't know. Your opinion?
I did order the rear lighting package. More nice in person than the advertising. Not sure if I remember exactly where it all is now, but lots of low key, but good looking accent lighting as well as the reading lights.(I know, I could have bought the keyless instead).

 

Well, just went to the car wash and I'll be damned if I could remove the dummy key.

Tried turning all the way to the left, turned to the left and held for 10 seconds or so, etc. Can't remove it.

 

keyless entry also has a nice touch of chrome on part of the door handles - subtle, not functional, but nice.

 

keyless go is not a good experience if you have a lot of ppl driving the cars

there are countless times when I need to make a quick stop and have someone take the wheel and circle around the block (since no parking) and forgot that the key is still in my pocket or a lot of times I swap cars with my parents or siblings and we forgot to exchange the keys

 

If it acts like any of the other keyless entry/drive systems the engine will keep running despite the key having been removed from inside the car. Just don't turn off the car and you'll be fine.

I think its pathetic Porsche created the fake "key". Put in a start/stop button like everyone else.

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of course, but its not always the case....

there are more then a few times I had to go back and swap the keys LOL

but for porsche, does it have proximity sensor for the door handles (like benz/bimmer) or u still gotta press the button (nissan/toyota)?

 

Stopped by dealer today. A car was being prepped, so we went back and talked to the tech. Page 166 or so in the owners manual details the way to remove the dummy key. Remove small cover, press button beneath. Nothing to do with turning key and holding for 10 seconds.

 

Actually, he's correct.

Page 165 says "turn the control unit to position 3 and hold 10 seconds until you hear clicking sound. The remove control unit."

And that does work. I heard one loud click and then the dummy key pulled right out.


I think the description on 166 is if your key battery dies. You need a paper clip to push in a little hole to release the dummy key that way.

 

Guess we are going to have to figure this stuff out on our own! Techs dont know the details. Thanks for clarification!

 

The dummy key is actually a design that embraces the racing heritage of Porsche. In the days of Le Mans when the race started with the cars parked and turned off and the drivers had to run across the track. The developers believed that it would be quicker to get the car started if you could use the left hand for the ignition and the right hand for the brake/shifter. The push button is okay but really not much different. There are more key positions with the dummy key than you could have with the button.

I like the dummy key....and now that I am used to it I like the left hand ignition. The keyless go is very handy and nice to have but by no means a must have. It can cause problems by forgetting to give the key to a valet, even though the engine is still running.

I wonder what happens if you were to get car jacked? Let's say you are at a stop light and the attacker pulls you out of the car and begins to drive away. Can you push the panic button on the key fob (that is still in your pocket) and have it disable the ignition?? That would be a very nice feature!

 

I can see the argument for no dummy key vs push button/dummy key. Where it would be very convenient to get into the car and have it start up automatically (maybe even voice controlled) but what difference is there between a dummy key and a push button? You would be doing the same hand maneuver in both cases.

 

As others have stated, I think the dummy key makes the car a target for a would be thief. However, if I was carjacked the last thing I would want to do is disable the car a few hundred feet from me with a very angry criminal. Please get as far away from me as possible, thank you very much.

The single push button design is more elegant in my mind, and does allow for multiple modes. BMW does this. Push it with your foot on the brake and the car starts. Push it without your foot on the brake and it goes into accessory only mode. You can also push and hold to turn the car entirely off, or push it twice.. etc. The point is you don't need anything more complicated. Imho, Porsche got this one wrong. They designed to the desire to maintain the heritage, rather than what is good for the customer.

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Porsche is very tied to it's heritage which can be both good and bad. Not having a push button start and standard up/down paddles would be two of the bad ones IMO.