Yes, our choices mean we appreciate different things.

However, 997tts vs gt3 IMO is still different. In these two its also about different looks (I actually like the gt3 look more), pdk vs manual and the 997tt has a notoriously bad turbo lag. No such differences in the pgts and ptt w/powerkit or pgts. I HATE turbo lag! Before making a leap from ptt to so ething else the op should try what removing the turbo lag does to the car. Off course I cant say how his car is specced otherwise.

I would be willing to bet that a car speced as mine powerkit+pccb+pdcc incl lsd+ pse doesnt feel significantly less sportier than a pgts. Actually, as you are a Porsche instructor and people(including me) value your opinnion, I would appreciate it if you would test drive the ptts and give your honest opinnion. I have never driven a ptt so I cant be sure, but I think there is a big difference in driving pleasure. Turbo lag sucks.

 

Will do - I'm scheduled to drive a PTTS on the track either late this summer or early fall. I'll report back.

 

Excellent, I am eager to hear about your experience.

 

I am no Porsche instructor but driving my PTT I feel no turbo lag.I was going back and forth about whether to trade my PTT in for the PGTS but have come to realize the only thing the PGTS has that my turbo doesn't is the exhaust note. So if I put in an after market exhaust, will it give me the "downshift blips " that the PGTS has? If so what one?

 

If you dont trust me on this one, test drive the ptts. The powerkit/s ti-al turbos engage 50% faster than original ones, why ask 30000euros for this conversion if there is no turbo lag? Youll notice it once you drive the ptts. Test drive the ptts! Powerkit your turbo and add an aftermarket exhaust. Youll love your ptt then!

Youd ad important info to the board, no one has driven the ptt, pgts and ptts yet and posted opinnions.

 

Major lag in Turbo w/o powerkit VS PTTS. I've driven both and I'm strongly considering the PTTS.

 

Do I remember correctly that you were going to drive the PTTS at the end of July? Have you had the chance yet? Eager to hear your impressions.

 

Had a race conflict this weekend and couldn't attend the event. Not even sure if they had the PTTS - too bad. There's a possibility in September, but my schedule doesn't look too good then either.

 

sorry to revive an older post, but I am having similar dilemma between Turbo and GTS. It seems like GTS is holding its value very well and pricing out more than a used Turbo. Love to hear input from folks who's owned both. GTS seems like an ideal choice for me (mostly for the exhaust note, interior, and downshift blip etc) but not sure if I will regret not having more power...

 

I drove and ordered the GTS. while on order drove the turbo. now granted I am a hp guy and love turbos I also race and drive Porsche cup cars and my GT-1 800hp twin turbo

very different!! the GTS is more visceral and I think "more" fun to drive. I just cant stand the fact that it is 130hp less than the PTTS and much slower

ok so I went turbo, that said also have the PDCC and PCCB with Fabspeed exhaust and IPD plenum, so my PTTS is plenty fun and wicked fast. Having had the choice of either I went with hp. that being said everything and reason um says I agree with. we both race and instruct but dont think many are going to track their 970 so street feel and impressions and really more important than hp and speed on the street.

people are looking for different things in cars and everyones results will vary

drive them and choose, we are lucky to have that situation!!

tom

 

Excellent point Tom. TTS with the mods you have would solve all of my problems However, after driving 997TT and not really being able to push this car within legal limits, I am leaning towards a car that at least makes the driving more "fun". Now, I just need to find a freaking GTS to even drive around here.

 

the turbos on the street are hard to get alot out of, sterile speed, however when I drive my 911S much more so.

turbos love boost and need rpms for them by then you are going to get arrested. the GT-3 or GTS around town on the streets much more sound fun and visceral. as long as you dont plan on street racing PTTS's overall fun factor and certainly when you figure in "bang for the buck" goes to the GTS

good luck

tom

 

This is a great discussion. I bought a 2010 PTT when it first came out, it is truly a phenomenal car. The torque and speed is just breath taking when you punch it or do launch control. I will say that the car felt a little "wallowy" if thats a word, not quite as crisp and tight around turns. After 2 years for some reason I wanted a 991 S, so made the mistake of trading it in. After a few months I missed the Panamera so I had to get another one. The GTS had just came out, was a difficult decision. However after driving a GTS, for my personal needs the GTS just seemed perfect. Love the exhaust, feels more planted on the road for some reason. I am very happy with my choice, especially because the GTS seems like a rare car, I havnt actually seen another one on the road.

So in summary, if you want mid-ripping boost/torque, get the PTT. I miss it sometimes, but the handling, feel and exhaust make me glad I chose the GTS.

Either way these cars are just so amazing, cant go wrong with either choice. We are very lucky to even be able to talk about so things! Good luck with your choice.

 

agree with your comments

wondering if your car had the PDCC? as others posts ask if needed, my feeling is that stops alot of the squat, dive, and roll and I think especially in a car of this size it is needed.

 

you should google PGTS reviews - i think you will find that most of them end up making a comp to the turbo and conclude that the PTGS is simply the most involving and fun of the whole Panamera range. i can't remember one review concluding otherwise.