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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GTgears
Wow,
For all that money you'd think that a Porsche would have a more complex computer. My lowly little Subaru WRX will store the codes, just like the Porsche ECU, but if will have a time and date stamp on it. If I'm driving around with multiple stored codes, I can defnitely tell which one came from which incident.

Are you guys sure that the Porsche ECU doesn't do the same thing?

I don't know about the Porsche protocol, but on my WRX if the thing that triggered the code doesn't re-occur in the next 5 start cycles, the CEL will go off. I suspect something similar has happened here.
ECU does store codes with time stamp. results I have seen were given in engine hours. Also indicates rpm and some other data. Not sure what the protocol is for turning off the CEL on non-recurrence. Disconnecting the battery for 20 minutes resets the ecu, but leaves the codes.
 
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Originally Posted by FAST FWD
ECU does store codes with time stamp. results I have seen were given in engine hours. Also indicates rpm and some other data. Not sure what the protocol is for turning off the CEL on non-recurrence. Disconnecting the battery for 20 minutes resets the ecu, but leaves the codes.
So if I disconnect the battery for 20 minutes, it will clear away the CEL light if the problem no longer exists?
 
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Originally Posted by ColoradoSilver
So if I disconnect the battery for 20 minutes, it will clear away the CEL light if the problem no longer exists?
I think that's correct - if the problem no longer exists. But something has to be wrong to trigger the CEL. The codes tend to return in my experience. Best to get them read to know what the situation is. If you have the Durametric tool, it takes 5 minutes in the privacy of your own garage.

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Originally Posted by GTgears
Wow,
For all that money you'd think that a Porsche would have a more complex computer. My lowly little Subaru WRX will store the codes, just like the Porsche ECU, but if will have a time and date stamp on it. If I'm driving around with multiple stored codes, I can defnitely tell which one came from which incident.

Are you guys sure that the Porsche ECU doesn't do the same thing?

I don't know about the Porsche protocol, but on my WRX if the thing that triggered the code doesn't re-occur in the next 5 start cycles, the CEL will go off. I suspect something similar has happened here.
An off the shelf, basic OBD code reader will only get a code- not the last events' time stamp and a count of how many times the error was thrown. As mentioned a durametric or Porsche PIWIS will get this data.

Yes, the reason the light is off is the error is no longer 'active'.
 

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