Is sport plus option worth it on 958.2 GTS
#1
Is sport plus option worth it on 958.2 GTS
I don't have it on my 2016 cayenne gts but am thinking about it. Already have the fabspeed bypass pipes but getting the itch for something new. Anyone with it tell me their thoughts. I already saw the your tube video of it and it looks interesting.
#2
My 2016 GTS has Sport Plus... It's really only a small change from Sport mode, with a more aggressive transmission profile and harder suspension.
If you were tracking the car regularly, and didn't want to shift manually, you'd probably want Sport Plus. It seems to perform very well in holding gears under braking or lateral forces. I find it better to use manual mode on the track... But, at big tracks, like the Nurburgring, most of the test drivers use the automatic mode on cars they are trying to set lap records with... So it must be good.
It's not good for the street, as it keeps the revs in the 3-4K rpm band at all times, and has very crisp downshifts/upshifts, which make it annoying on the street. And the suspension is too hard for the street.
I would say save your money for an ECU tune. There are some systems out now, with more likely coming. The Cobb system seems to be working well for Macan owners, so they might bring that to the Cayenne some day.
If you were tracking the car regularly, and didn't want to shift manually, you'd probably want Sport Plus. It seems to perform very well in holding gears under braking or lateral forces. I find it better to use manual mode on the track... But, at big tracks, like the Nurburgring, most of the test drivers use the automatic mode on cars they are trying to set lap records with... So it must be good.
It's not good for the street, as it keeps the revs in the 3-4K rpm band at all times, and has very crisp downshifts/upshifts, which make it annoying on the street. And the suspension is too hard for the street.
I would say save your money for an ECU tune. There are some systems out now, with more likely coming. The Cobb system seems to be working well for Macan owners, so they might bring that to the Cayenne some day.
Last edited by [SS]Shooter; 12-16-2016 at 03:46 PM.
#3
Thanks for the feedback. It's not too expensive. Plus it wont give me any warranty issues. We'll see how it goes. I'd like something that holds the rpm's longer than sport mode anyway. Plus I get to get an extra button!
Last edited by jtorrebl; 12-18-2016 at 06:59 PM.
#4
Got it installed yesterday. Cost about $1650 installed. Car now has a beast mode. Very aggressive but fun! Can't drive slow on the streets but holds the refs very high. Turn it on car lowers, engine/exhaust purrs louder and got a sports chrono option in the variable screen on the dash.
Got the extra part of anyone needs it
Got the extra part of anyone needs it
#5
They must build those console panels individually. I think I've seen a half-dozen variations on how the buttons are laid out. Here's mine. I have the lane assist option where your new panel has moved the start/stop button.
The factory video is also different.
I wonder where everything would be if all buttons were populated?
The factory video is also different.
I wonder where everything would be if all buttons were populated?
#7
Fully loaded GTS would be like mine plus lane assist
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#8
Given the way all of these modules are supposed to interact I'm not sure how readily a system in one car would tolerate a button panel from another. Both because of their being buttons missing for features present, and vice versa, buttons present without the underlying features active in the car's configuration.
#9
When I added the dash clock to my CTT - it found the computer buss immediately and set the time on itself. But - it didn't light up. So I got out my iCarScan and started poking around. First I found a command to send it that would turn the light on - but it stayed on even when the vehicle went to sleep. That wasn't what I wanted.. so I started digging a bit more - and found a new checkbox marked "Sport-Chrono [ ]" - I checked that off and now the clock illuminated with the rest of the dash. Cool.
Even cooler - in scrolling through the displays on the programmable instrument cluster screen - a sport-chrono stopwatch display now appeared there. It took a few seconds to figure out it's controlled by the steering-wheel buttons (start/stop/reset/lap)..
I also do have the factory dash-center sport chrono unit that goes where the clock is - but didn't really see the utility of it since I was looking for a clock - analog - not a stopwatch. It looks cool, but is less functional. I didn't bother plugging it in..
Anyway - point is - if you have the center dash clock you're likely a checkbox away from having sport-chrono mode.
#10
Hmmm, do you get the yellow launch control message on the MFT? You engage it by sitting at a stop, in gear, REALLY pressing down on the brake, holding it and pressing the accelerator. The MFT will illuminate with a yellow background telling you launch control is active. Then it's a matter of releasing the brake and HOLDING ON.
#11
Hmmm, do you get the yellow launch control message on the MFT? You engage it by sitting at a stop, in gear, REALLY pressing down on the brake, holding it and pressing the accelerator. The MFT will illuminate with a yellow background telling you launch control is active. Then it's a matter of releasing the brake and HOLDING ON.
#12
Hmmm, do you get the yellow launch control message on the MFT? You engage it by sitting at a stop, in gear, REALLY pressing down on the brake, holding it and pressing the accelerator. The MFT will illuminate with a yellow background telling you launch control is active. Then it's a matter of releasing the brake and HOLDING ON.
Never mind an quick your tune search shows otherwise
Last edited by jtorrebl; 01-06-2017 at 12:26 AM.
#13
I used it in a Turbo S on the PECATL track. It was pretty simple to initiate. HOLD the brake pedal down, HARD. Fully apply the throttle and the MFT switched to a yellow background, with text indicating launch control (performance start?) was active. Release the brake while keeping the accelerator mashed and OFF YOU GO! I'd think you could cancel it just by letting off the throttle, and then the brake. As you can imagine, canceling it wasn't going to be part of track time that day!
The one thing that might be required, however, is being in Sport+ mode. I'd imagine I was already in that mode, but I don't know if Launch Control requires it being present or not.
#14
Really, the 'Performance Start' on the Cayenne is just powerbraking the car (like on a '69 Charger).
You simply stop on the brake, take the revs up to the converter stall speed, and release the brake. Yes, if you are in Sport Plus, and do it right, it says 'PERFORMANCE START ACTIVATED' or something like that. But, I don't think it does anything different than if you don't have Sport Plus.
I don't see it really doing anything different than when I've powerbraked ANY car ever.
You simply stop on the brake, take the revs up to the converter stall speed, and release the brake. Yes, if you are in Sport Plus, and do it right, it says 'PERFORMANCE START ACTIVATED' or something like that. But, I don't think it does anything different than if you don't have Sport Plus.
I don't see it really doing anything different than when I've powerbraked ANY car ever.
#15
Really, the 'Performance Start' on the Cayenne is just powerbraking the car (like on a '69 Charger).
You simply stop on the brake, take the revs up to the converter stall speed, and release the brake. Yes, if you are in Sport Plus, and do it right, it says 'PERFORMANCE START ACTIVATED' or something like that. But, I don't think it does anything different than if you don't have Sport Plus.
I don't see it really doing anything different than when I've powerbraked ANY car ever.
You simply stop on the brake, take the revs up to the converter stall speed, and release the brake. Yes, if you are in Sport Plus, and do it right, it says 'PERFORMANCE START ACTIVATED' or something like that. But, I don't think it does anything different than if you don't have Sport Plus.
I don't see it really doing anything different than when I've powerbraked ANY car ever.
I did briefly try it today on my '11 CTT - not pressing the pedal far enough to see if anything lit up or displayed - but on the CTT - the engine does respond to the fun pedal if the brake is depressed - unlike the '06.
Whatever - I don't see me doing it since I don't like winding up a driveline that's as expensive to fix as a Cayenne one is.