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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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anyone with PSS9s and GT3 sways?

We've had one helluva hard time making anything work. It seems the mount to the strut is so high and movement becomes and issue and bends rods. Anyoe got any pictures of their PSS9s and drop links connected to their sways in the front? The way my set is it won't work with stock/H&R or of course GT3 sways. Bizaaro...

PS I think Bob found a solution now
 
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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i have a 996 tt x-50 2002 with pss9 and gt-3 adjustable sways. the problem is that the gt-3 is not all wheel drive like the tt and so you can't really adjust the front, but you can mount them. The people who sold you the gt-3 "adjustable" sways (should have told you they) can only be adjusted on the backs as the gt-3 and tt are the same in the rear. Use the original mounting hardware on the second setting in the front, and then it is good but not adjustable
 

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i have a 996 tt x-50 2002 with pss9 and gt-3 adjustable sways. the problem is that the gt-3 is not all wheel drive like the tt and so you can't really adjust the front, but you can mount them. The people who sold you the gt-3 "adjustable" sways should have told you it can only be adjusted on the backs as the gt-3 and tt are the same in the rear. Use the original mounting hardware on the second setting in the front, and then it is good but not adjustable
 
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how about something like this?
 
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Sharkey, this is the first I have heard of this! If you can't adjust the front sway, I want a different solution. Please keep us informed.
 
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I had to extend the droplinks to use the GT3 sways.
 
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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Stephan talked about drop links in a recent thread. If all you have to do is add drop links to maintain adjustability, then fine. Is this all there is to it?
 
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No basically the way the drop link mounts to the strut (it's way high) it's always short no matter what sway bar you use. Also, when you turn the wheel, it moves so much that it will bend rods...
 
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How about a picture of the interference with the bar in the car?
 
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I remember that curved drop links were required based on some old threads. I also recall that Racer's Group?? or somebody out there manufactured some very nice ones. From a structural perspective, a curved drop link is a bit odd. Normally, the drop link is a 2 force member. It is strictly in tension or compression with the loads applied at the drop link ends. Once you introduce a curve, the drop link is subjected to bending (flexural) stresses as well. The point of me bringing this to the table is that drop links should be designed to take this additional loading effect into consideration. If the DL was originally designed for simply tension or compression and now it sees flexural as well, it should be made stronger to account for that. I broke a drop link on my old 944 turbo on the track in a corner and the feeling is, shall we say, unnerving. It results in an instantaneous body roll and resulting redistribution of tire loads and imbalance. Spooky!!

Pics Alex, please!!
 
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This appears to be a moderately serious problem. My understanding is it is just a problem with PSS9's and adjustable sways because they move the strut mounting point. I am not real happy about using a bent drop link for the exact reasons Ken mentions. I will continue to get more information.

Cary, can you please comment on your drop link, who did it, how much, how well does it work?
 
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I have been following this thread and I think am aware of the problem...
I did not buy the GT3 sways from day one for this reason and chose H&R. I am not sure if this problem exists with the H&Rs (Sharky you had them before right? can you comment?) but I do not believe it does...I have my front set to the middle position and everything is normal...
 
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How about a picture of the interference with the bar in the car?
Sure thing Ken. I'll do that tomorrow then. I think Bob, Stephen/Kevin can explain this situation better than I can but I am suprised more people didn't encounter this?
 
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Originally posted by KPV
I remember that curved drop links were required based on some old threads. I also recall that Racer's Group?? or somebody out there manufactured some very nice ones. From a structural perspective, a curved drop link is a bit odd. Normally, the drop link is a 2 force member. It is strictly in tension or compression with the loads applied at the drop link ends. Once you introduce a curve, the drop link is subjected to bending (flexural) stresses as well. The point of me bringing this to the table is that drop links should be designed to take this additional loading effect into consideration. If the DL was originally designed for simply tension or compression and now it sees flexural as well, it should be made stronger to account for that. I broke a drop link on my old 944 turbo on the track in a corner and the feeling is, shall we say, unnerving. It results in an instantaneous body roll and resulting redistribution of tire loads and imbalance. Spooky!!

Pics Alex, please!!
I've seen the crescent shaped ones before but I'm with you on that solution. Not great. I know some folks that broke their's around a corner on a track and as a result lost it It's not a nice feeling. I've been driving without them connected up front Funny oversteer, it's nuts.
 


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