RS7 test drive
#1
RS7 test drive
Drove a 2016 Audi RS7 today, to compare to my 2010 PTT
Positive aspects of RS7 - great exhaust sound/backfire on downshifts in sport mode, plenty of power in straight line ( as much as PTT i would estimate) B and O stereo as good as Burmeister system. Rear hatch space seemed equal. Excellent brakes
Overall the Audi is quieter at highway speeds, and the noisy bits on the Panny - the air compressor, the rear hatch lift mechanism - just cannot hear on the Audi
Sport seats seemed fine, perhaps not as comfortable long term as Panny. Easier to get into sport mode in Audi with quick pull of shift lever down vs hunting for the sport button on PTT. Transmission in Audi is a ZF sourced 8 speed, not double clutch, but very smooth shifts, much better than PTT at low speeds which can be clunky. Updated electronics , particularly nav is very fast with smooth graphics.
Negatives - cannot get ventilated sport seats. Even in sport mode audi is not nearly as flat in the curves as PTT with PDCC. Audi - Not so sure about front end styling, but overall nice lines. Rear seating is ok, headroom limited by roofline.
So - guess i will keep looking for what might replace the PTT when the warranty runs out.
Positive aspects of RS7 - great exhaust sound/backfire on downshifts in sport mode, plenty of power in straight line ( as much as PTT i would estimate) B and O stereo as good as Burmeister system. Rear hatch space seemed equal. Excellent brakes
Overall the Audi is quieter at highway speeds, and the noisy bits on the Panny - the air compressor, the rear hatch lift mechanism - just cannot hear on the Audi
Sport seats seemed fine, perhaps not as comfortable long term as Panny. Easier to get into sport mode in Audi with quick pull of shift lever down vs hunting for the sport button on PTT. Transmission in Audi is a ZF sourced 8 speed, not double clutch, but very smooth shifts, much better than PTT at low speeds which can be clunky. Updated electronics , particularly nav is very fast with smooth graphics.
Negatives - cannot get ventilated sport seats. Even in sport mode audi is not nearly as flat in the curves as PTT with PDCC. Audi - Not so sure about front end styling, but overall nice lines. Rear seating is ok, headroom limited by roofline.
So - guess i will keep looking for what might replace the PTT when the warranty runs out.
#3
Drove a 2016 Audi RS7 today, to compare to my 2010 PTT
Positive aspects of RS7 - great exhaust sound/backfire on downshifts in sport mode, plenty of power in straight line ( as much as PTT i would estimate) B and O stereo as good as Burmeister system. Rear hatch space seemed equal. Excellent brakes
Overall the Audi is quieter at highway speeds, and the noisy bits on the Panny - the air compressor, the rear hatch lift mechanism - just cannot hear on the Audi
Sport seats seemed fine, perhaps not as comfortable long term as Panny. Easier to get into sport mode in Audi with quick pull of shift lever down vs hunting for the sport button on PTT. Transmission in Audi is a ZF sourced 8 speed, not double clutch, but very smooth shifts, much better than PTT at low speeds which can be clunky. Updated electronics , particularly nav is very fast with smooth graphics.
Negatives - cannot get ventilated sport seats. Even in sport mode audi is not nearly as flat in the curves as PTT with PDCC. Audi - Not so sure about front end styling, but overall nice lines. Rear seating is ok, headroom limited by roofline.
So - guess i will keep looking for what might replace the PTT when the warranty runs out.
Positive aspects of RS7 - great exhaust sound/backfire on downshifts in sport mode, plenty of power in straight line ( as much as PTT i would estimate) B and O stereo as good as Burmeister system. Rear hatch space seemed equal. Excellent brakes
Overall the Audi is quieter at highway speeds, and the noisy bits on the Panny - the air compressor, the rear hatch lift mechanism - just cannot hear on the Audi
Sport seats seemed fine, perhaps not as comfortable long term as Panny. Easier to get into sport mode in Audi with quick pull of shift lever down vs hunting for the sport button on PTT. Transmission in Audi is a ZF sourced 8 speed, not double clutch, but very smooth shifts, much better than PTT at low speeds which can be clunky. Updated electronics , particularly nav is very fast with smooth graphics.
Negatives - cannot get ventilated sport seats. Even in sport mode audi is not nearly as flat in the curves as PTT with PDCC. Audi - Not so sure about front end styling, but overall nice lines. Rear seating is ok, headroom limited by roofline.
So - guess i will keep looking for what might replace the PTT when the warranty runs out.
#5
I actually rather like the near-silence of electric drive in my PSeH. If it weren't for all my other issues with the Tesla P85D, I'd be very interested.
Among other things, I've come to appreciate the ridiculous range I get with the PSeH. It's the first car I've been able to drive from Boston to Virginia without needing to stop for fuel. Even the 200-ish mile range of the Tesla electrics seems like a big step back from that.
Among other things, I've come to appreciate the ridiculous range I get with the PSeH. It's the first car I've been able to drive from Boston to Virginia without needing to stop for fuel. Even the 200-ish mile range of the Tesla electrics seems like a big step back from that.
#7
Agreed. I do believe the interior quality of the Panamera is superior to the P85D.
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Edmunds has had their P85 for a couple of years now, and Tesla has had to replace the entire drivetrain twice. I might have discounted it as an issue if it had only happened to them once.
There are places I've driven in the past year which would have been unreachable in a model S, because they were too distant from the Supercharger network for a round trip.
Annual service is $600. While it's not absolutely required anymore, that seems excessive. From what I gather, it's that expensive because they want to check everything because they're still new enough to the car business that they're not sure what might go wrong yet. Yeah, I'm discovering that Porsche dealer service is ludicrously overpriced, but it still bothers me.
My subjective issue is that it looks like a very, very ordinary sedan to me. I know there are people who really like the looks, but given that I don't really find the Panamera sporty-looking enough for my taste, and the Panamera is far sportier in appearance than the Model S, it'd bug me.
There are places I've driven in the past year which would have been unreachable in a model S, because they were too distant from the Supercharger network for a round trip.
Annual service is $600. While it's not absolutely required anymore, that seems excessive. From what I gather, it's that expensive because they want to check everything because they're still new enough to the car business that they're not sure what might go wrong yet. Yeah, I'm discovering that Porsche dealer service is ludicrously overpriced, but it still bothers me.
My subjective issue is that it looks like a very, very ordinary sedan to me. I know there are people who really like the looks, but given that I don't really find the Panamera sporty-looking enough for my taste, and the Panamera is far sportier in appearance than the Model S, it'd bug me.
#9
Edmunds has had their P85 for a couple of years now, and Tesla has had to replace the entire drivetrain twice. I might have discounted it as an issue if it had only happened to them once.
There are places I've driven in the past year which would have been unreachable in a model S, because they were too distant from the Supercharger network for a round trip.
Annual service is $600. While it's not absolutely required anymore, that seems excessive. From what I gather, it's that expensive because they want to check everything because they're still new enough to the car business that they're not sure what might go wrong yet. Yeah, I'm discovering that Porsche dealer service is ludicrously overpriced, but it still bothers me.
My subjective issue is that it looks like a very, very ordinary sedan to me. I know there are people who really like the looks, but given that I don't really find the Panamera sporty-looking enough for my taste, and the Panamera is far sportier in appearance than the Model S, it'd bug me.
There are places I've driven in the past year which would have been unreachable in a model S, because they were too distant from the Supercharger network for a round trip.
Annual service is $600. While it's not absolutely required anymore, that seems excessive. From what I gather, it's that expensive because they want to check everything because they're still new enough to the car business that they're not sure what might go wrong yet. Yeah, I'm discovering that Porsche dealer service is ludicrously overpriced, but it still bothers me.
My subjective issue is that it looks like a very, very ordinary sedan to me. I know there are people who really like the looks, but given that I don't really find the Panamera sporty-looking enough for my taste, and the Panamera is far sportier in appearance than the Model S, it'd bug me.
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