Help with sometimes-no-start 997
#1
Help with sometimes-no-start 997
New to this forum, looking for advice. I have a 2008 997 S Cab manual.
Most of the time, the car starts fine. But sometimes when I turn the key, I hear the click but no start. Lights and all indications of battery are quite strong. The car has typically been sitting overnight in a heated garage. Parked on a flat parking space.
What makes it start: Roll the car 1 foot. Either direction works (forwards or backwards). Then it starts up strong with zero hesitation. Every time. With that heart-racing sound that I love.
What doesn’t affect it: Battery is good (replaced it). Tried shaking the car up and down-no difference. Move the gear shift around – no difference. Press clutch in and out a few times-no difference. Parking break engaged or not – no difference. The steering wheel isn’t locked.
Dealer seems mystified. Help much appreciated.
Most of the time, the car starts fine. But sometimes when I turn the key, I hear the click but no start. Lights and all indications of battery are quite strong. The car has typically been sitting overnight in a heated garage. Parked on a flat parking space.
What makes it start: Roll the car 1 foot. Either direction works (forwards or backwards). Then it starts up strong with zero hesitation. Every time. With that heart-racing sound that I love.
What doesn’t affect it: Battery is good (replaced it). Tried shaking the car up and down-no difference. Move the gear shift around – no difference. Press clutch in and out a few times-no difference. Parking break engaged or not – no difference. The steering wheel isn’t locked.
Dealer seems mystified. Help much appreciated.
#3
Great advice.
Always check the most basic things first. Main Voltage goes from Battery to Starter. High current as the load is the greatest. From Ignition Circuit is same Voltage but less current to drive Starter Solenoid. If Battery Voltage is good and all you hear is click sometimes, that is typical of bad connections.
Not surprised dealer is stumped. They have been programmed to connect up the Porsche Diagnostic tester before thinking what is the problem, what is the typical cause and look at the basics. These may be new cars but the old problems and causes still exist.
Always check the most basic things first. Main Voltage goes from Battery to Starter. High current as the load is the greatest. From Ignition Circuit is same Voltage but less current to drive Starter Solenoid. If Battery Voltage is good and all you hear is click sometimes, that is typical of bad connections.
Not surprised dealer is stumped. They have been programmed to connect up the Porsche Diagnostic tester before thinking what is the problem, what is the typical cause and look at the basics. These may be new cars but the old problems and causes still exist.
#4
New to this forum, looking for advice. I have a 2008 997 S Cab manual.
Most of the time, the car starts fine. But sometimes when I turn the key, I hear the click but no start. Lights and all indications of battery are quite strong. The car has typically been sitting overnight in a heated garage. Parked on a flat parking space.
What makes it start: Roll the car 1 foot. Either direction works (forwards or backwards). Then it starts up strong with zero hesitation. Every time. With that heart-racing sound that I love.
What doesn’t affect it: Battery is good (replaced it). Tried shaking the car up and down-no difference. Move the gear shift around – no difference. Press clutch in and out a few times-no difference. Parking break engaged or not – no difference. The steering wheel isn’t locked.
Dealer seems mystified. Help much appreciated.
Most of the time, the car starts fine. But sometimes when I turn the key, I hear the click but no start. Lights and all indications of battery are quite strong. The car has typically been sitting overnight in a heated garage. Parked on a flat parking space.
What makes it start: Roll the car 1 foot. Either direction works (forwards or backwards). Then it starts up strong with zero hesitation. Every time. With that heart-racing sound that I love.
What doesn’t affect it: Battery is good (replaced it). Tried shaking the car up and down-no difference. Move the gear shift around – no difference. Press clutch in and out a few times-no difference. Parking break engaged or not – no difference. The steering wheel isn’t locked.
Dealer seems mystified. Help much appreciated.
My problem was a bad starter which I changed and all has been good since. The Bosch part number on the new starter was changed so they apparently updated the part.
Before you spend the money on a new starter just make sure there's no corrosion on any electrical connection between the battery and the starter that would affect the voltage getting to the starter and make sure all connections are tight.
Last edited by Bruce; 06-28-2014 at 10:43 AM.
#5
That's true but the issue usually manifest itself while attempting to start a hot engine. Cold starting wasn't usually an issue. Voltage drop test would confirm a cable or connection issue. If there is no appreciable voltage drop (.5 volts or less ) at battery vs alternator + terminal I'd vote for bad starter solenoid.
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