Comparison of 3 great cars
I'm a little bummed to hear the word "harsh" used to describe the NVH and ride in the 991TT. I don't have my car yet and haven't even driven one but I was not expecting to hear this word used. Hopefully my experience or perception is different.
I drove my dad's base 991 and didn't think it was rough or noisy at all compared to my 981 BS but I understand that the TT will have different chassis setup.
- Patrick
I drove my dad's base 991 and didn't think it was rough or noisy at all compared to my 981 BS but I understand that the TT will have different chassis setup.
- Patrick
I forgot to mention the transmissions:
2014 Porsche>2012 Ferrari>2013 McLaren
I want slow forward creep at idle and a predictable light throttle response on the street. On the track, lighting shifts without chassis jump or power interruption. All can deliver the latter, durability being the unknown.
All 3 are wet dual clutch. Graziano may have supplied similar hardware for the mid engine cars, but the software is different. This has been discussed on other forums. I suspect some combination of durability and versatility was sought. Compromise, in other words. My McLaren’s 1-2 shift was needlessly choppy. It also allowed a lot of slip before hooking up in 1st. Not good when you’re trying to feel for traction or get out of someone’s way on the rush home. Mode control goes to McLaren for not using silly words like “race” and for logically and completely divorcing drivetrain and suspension settings.
It's unfair perhaps to compare different model years and software iterations, particularly on the 458. Of the three, the Porsche feels most like an automatic yet not soft. Interestingly it has some clatter, some gear slack you can hear. It's not annoying like reported in the GTR. More a throwback to light flywheel manuals.
The crisp bark on upshift goes to Ferrari. See above section on exhaust note. It sounds like something unique and violent is happening in there, to wow onlookers, to propel you forward, and harness the inertia of those between- gear RPMs.
Both the 12C and the 458 will tell you when the clutch is hot and it's time for a Pepsi break. The PDK, well, it won't tell you anything, because it doesn't overheat.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-65-7-roa0314/
2014 Porsche>2012 Ferrari>2013 McLaren
I want slow forward creep at idle and a predictable light throttle response on the street. On the track, lighting shifts without chassis jump or power interruption. All can deliver the latter, durability being the unknown.
All 3 are wet dual clutch. Graziano may have supplied similar hardware for the mid engine cars, but the software is different. This has been discussed on other forums. I suspect some combination of durability and versatility was sought. Compromise, in other words. My McLaren’s 1-2 shift was needlessly choppy. It also allowed a lot of slip before hooking up in 1st. Not good when you’re trying to feel for traction or get out of someone’s way on the rush home. Mode control goes to McLaren for not using silly words like “race” and for logically and completely divorcing drivetrain and suspension settings.
It's unfair perhaps to compare different model years and software iterations, particularly on the 458. Of the three, the Porsche feels most like an automatic yet not soft. Interestingly it has some clatter, some gear slack you can hear. It's not annoying like reported in the GTR. More a throwback to light flywheel manuals.
The crisp bark on upshift goes to Ferrari. See above section on exhaust note. It sounds like something unique and violent is happening in there, to wow onlookers, to propel you forward, and harness the inertia of those between- gear RPMs.
Both the 12C and the 458 will tell you when the clutch is hot and it's time for a Pepsi break. The PDK, well, it won't tell you anything, because it doesn't overheat.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-65-7-roa0314/
Great write up and I enjoyed all the threads following. While I have often lusted for a 458 or 12C, I've settled for a 911 turbo. Settled because, although I can afford an exotic (as in 1 slightly used one in the wrong color) , I can't stand the attention a true exotic gets. I can drive my Porsche anywhere anytime and rarely get comments or unwanted attention. Maybe it looks like a boxster or base 911. I don't care but it sure is fun to drive and go unnoticed. And I can't imagine a better, all around car to drive around.
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