I'm looking to buy a 991 Turbo/TTS. Besides the power difference, is it worth the money to buy the TTS? Turbo owners, do you regret not getting the TTS?

 

The subject has been beat to death. Do a search before posting please.

 

Yuchi--I'm shopping also and my opinion is the TT is more than sufficient considering the higher initial cost of the TTS plus future insurance rates. Also standard things on the TTS I don't really need:
1-Ceramic brakes--sure they're excellent and prevent dust but they add alot to the cost and will be expensive to replace if that day comes. Regular brakes on my 991TT work great and I don't track.
2-Center lock wheels--look fantastic but I don't want to be married to the dealer for all my tire changing needs because my local indy folks don't have the removal tool. I'm 80 miles from nearest dealer anyway.
My 3 requirements are sport chrono, premium pkg plus, and 18 way seats. Burmester is a bonus but I can do without. Maybe others will chime in...

 

+1 for me as well. I will sum up all the hundreds of threads so you don't need to search. All the TTS guys love their cars and would never say they wish they bought a TT. All the TT guys (me included) love our models and do not wish we bought a TTS.

You need to decide if you want ceramic brakes and a few of the other things. I actually didnt want ceramics so the S was out of the question.

 

It comes down to the question of "Do I need all those extra options on the Turbo S?"

If your answer is no, then I would get the regular Turbo.

If you answer is yes, then the Turbo S is a no brainer because if you specced a regular Turbo with all of the extra standard equipments from the Turbo S, your MSRP would be the same and you don't get the extra horsepower.

Also, if you ever tune your car, the Turbo S will still produce slightly more power. I spoke with GIAC at length about this. They don't know the exact reason why, but they suspect the head in the Turbo S is slightly different than the regular Turbo. They ran multiple dyno pulls on various TT/TTS and the results are very consistent in the fact that Turbo S produced more HP/TQ with the same programming as the Turbo.

 

Intersting. Not that turbo s need any more power anyway but I hear pro expert say who drive both cars fast on country road say S is significantly better than the TT where it count....and has noticeable more power. Also pdcc is very worthwhile on fast corners than car without. This I can agree for sure. I think if car is for city dragster then Pdcc maybe not see so much use but it is good option for normal tt to have.

 

Best thing to do is drive both and you will come to a quick decision IMO.

The Turbo S is just an awesome car and if you can afford $170K, $190K is prob within your reach.

I am sure resale on the S will be better than the non S.

Funny thing is I see other 991 Turbo S but never have come across a regular turbo. Maybe they didn't make too many of them.

 

changed my center lock set myself last weekend. 20 minutes tops and was my first time doing it. so you can cross that off the list

 

I spoke with my contact at PCNA and currently the ratio is roughly 65/35 for Turbo S/Turbo cars.

 

Agree 100% with you on the PDCC. I always switch it to Sport mode when I'm driving through the canyon roads. I can't imagine driving a 991 without it.

 

I am in the minority and have a TT. I started looking at a C2S or GTS and so the TT was already pushing beyond my original budget. My TT has PDCC, Sport chrono, and sport design mirrors and a few options that I would have put on a TTS too. I didn't want CL wheels but was on the fence on ceramic brakes.

In the end, my ordered 2015 TT was about $10K less than a lightly used 2014 TTS since I passed on the ceramics. I looked but couldn't find a 2014 TTS configured exactly the way I wanted (early 2014s with Entry and Drive and OEM rear cameras were hard to find in late 2014). If I had, I might have lived with the CL wheels.

However, in the end, I'm very happy with the car configured to my specs. I don't have ceramics, CL wheels, 18 way seats (14 way OK for me) and 30 hp compared to a similarly configured TTS but none of these were deal breakers and saved about $25K.

 

Here we go again. Like i posted all the TTS owners are happy and will tell you the extra money is justified and there aren't many TT out there....... You will then have all the TT folks tell you why they bought the TT and not the TTS and also are VERY happy with their purchase.

Drive them both, check your wallet and make your decision. That is why tommyboy posted what he did, these threads run forever and you will never get your answer you wanted.

 

LOL! They sure do. I just buy what's out there. I have never ordered a car and the one I really liked but couldn't do was this TT back last June. It had CCBs Burmester and Mahogany and they started it out at 159k with a msrp of 185k so it was a TT optioned up to a TTS but I like the Turbo wheels so I was glad to have them on the TTS I eventually did get.

 

I have a TT. If I could have swung a TTS, I would have. But I had a budget that I was determined to live with, and the difference in price between what I spec'd (166k) and what my TTS would have been (192k) was enough for me at the time to make a difference. Fast forward a year later, and I realize I could have spent the extra dough.

Do I love the TT - yes. Do I feel it is everything I wanted in a Porsche - yes. Am I OK not having carbon ceramic brakes and PDCC - yes. But I never drove the TTS. For all I know, I would drive one and then find my TT to be a disappointment. Doubt it, but you should drive both and decide.

As for resale value - I am assuming that we will all find that dealers are going to kill us on trades and there will be a robust market of used 991 TT and TTS from which to choose. Yes, the TTS is more expensive but it is by no means exclusive. In other words - I don't think one is more likely than the other to hold value. You might find that a TTS that is closer to needing new brakes is going to take a bigger hit than a comparable mileage TT but who knows?

 

Was on a back 4 lane country rd today with the Turbo S in "comfort mode" just enjoying the drive at 70 mph on a posted 65 mph road. A white 2015 GT3 pulls next to me and nods like he wants to race.

I forgot about the "comfort mode" setting. 3 beeps at 70 mph and I floor it and he beat me by a hair to 110 mph. The sound was deafening from his (both) cars.

I could not understand why at first how a car with 325 lb ft of torque could beat 516 lb ft of torque and then it dawned on me that I was in "relaxed mode". Lesson learned, lol. But all in good fun. I was impressed with the raw naturally aspirated power of the 991 GT3.

If only I could get a rematch! Sport Plus!!

After turned on a side vacant road and did 2 launch controls,,omg.. Very impressive! Took my breath away for a few seconds.