HAAA That's great, you caught him sleeping a little. You had a great reaction time.

 

Mr. wrs,


I think what Mr. thegame is trying to tell you is that driving is everything. You running a best of mid 10's in your 991 TTS would not cutting around many serious racing parts.


It appears that so far you have been fortunate during some of your racing scrimmages by running and beating not so skillful drivers.


FYI, a stock C6Z can run low 11's @ 127 stock! 10yrs ago that was flying! And back then, many folks (me included) were running high 10's with DR's, headers and basic ECU re-flash...add a cam and additional tuning - mid 10's was your reward. Those poor 997.1/.2 guys were getting spanked!


Today, the 991 TT/S is hard to beat stock vs. stock, but once you mod both platforms, sorry guys, my nod goes to the Vette. I've seen many auto Stingrays with tune, exhaust, heads, DR's and NOS run 9's all day long. And guess what? C7Z's are running in the 9's with tuning, crank pulley swap, CAI, headers and tuning. Ask me how I know....


I am a P-car guy to the end, but also a Vette guy; I respect both for what they are and what they offer.


Thanks,
E-Gear

 

Didn't you tell me ET was everything in another thread? LOL! Look at the reaction time against the Vette, that guy was an experienced driver. Not everyone at the track has the money for the best mods and so on. SAR is not like COTA and so guys out there are often just there for fun and some bragging rights so there are plenty of cars slower than mine that do run regularly. If you can afford a 991tts then it's nothing to drop $35-50k into a Vette or GT-R to build it and make it a really fast drag racing car. The people that go to Ennis and SAR are not in that league but the COTA people often are as are many on this board. This is by and large a deep pocket crowd.

Here is the deal, take that same Vette out to COTA and see how it stacks up against the P-car. It will melt it's brakes after the first run and be too hot to run after a two or three is my bet. The P-car guys that are trying to make these into drag cars are not going to beat the 8s GTRs or 9s Vettes that can be built for $50k. IMO, anymore power than what I have now is going to be useless on the road course. There may be other opinions that differ. Do you drive your vettes on a road course? Just curious.

 

WRS you have to be kidding lol. Newer vettes have constantly put up faster times around road courses than P turbo cars for a longggg time now. Most have carbon ceramic brakes and even the ones with huge steel brembos do not fade lap after lap.

The C7 Z06 and the Viper just bested the Porsche GT3RS time at Laguna Seca. The GT3RS is a much more track oriented car than the 991 turbo s. The Turbo S is a brilliant GT car but if you really think it's going to set faster lap times than the Z06 you are kidding yourself. The Corvettes cant handle thing has been gone since the C5 Z06 in 2001.

 

Hmmm, OK. I am just relating my own personal experiences with Vettes, by and large, they have been in my rear view mirror at the drag strip and at the track and I have run down more than a few GT3s at COTA. Again, it's about the driver and the car. If you are a good driver and your friend isn't, you will probably put the money in your wallet, it sounds like your car is well built. Are you planning on running it at a road course? I would be interested to see how it works for you as built on a road couse.

Here is a video of how my friend's Vette did against me at COTA back in early February. I can't remember what he said it was but it's not so vanilla albeit a few years older than my car and he wasn't letting me pass, he pushed it all the way. He bought that car just for road racing and he drives it all around the state but he isn't a super deep pocket kind of guy so I am sure it's not anything like what you are describing. Go to about 2:45 in the video to watch if you care to.

 

dupe

 

Yea that I completely believe. I think a ton of guys who own these vettes are really magazine racers and YES the cars ARE capable of these times but most owners are not capable of getting the most out of their car and achieving the best possible time.

I have no doubt it would be easier for the average Joe to jump in a Turbo S and run a faster time than he could in a C7 Z06. Sure there are drivers that can get the best out of the vette but the P car is way easier to drive fast. No denying that from me.

For instance the shop that builds my cars ECS is very well known in the Corvette community and yes many of their customers do take their cars and do road courses. If you ever visit vetteforum you can see in the road racing forum all the guys that do this. However a Centri blower is not the best set up for road racing. Can you do it?? Yes because it really is a great kit and the intercooler is laid flat so it's not blocking the radiator however a good N/A set up is always better for road racing.

I live in northern nj and I really can't hang with the vette guys that much because a lot (not all) are quite older and just waxers lol I found myself meeting up with some 370z guys for fun because they were closer to my age and we had more in common. lol

 

Preach on brotha...preach on!!!


Some people just need to be educated. Their minds will open up once they remove the brand blinders.


Mr. wrs - my C7Z ran strong at COTA. Sure, I hated the AIT/ECT issues, but I since handled that. However, I am a drag racer first, then road racer second. 1/2 mile or 1 mile events are boring to me. I participated in many of them back in the day with my now gone but not forgotten TT Gallardo.


Thanks,
E-Gear

 

This is why I love the car so much.

I will be 60 in 6 weeks and I am not a waxer. I love driving the car and getting what I paid for. I am looking forward to seeing how your race turns out and for what it's worth, after talking to you on this thread, my money is on you and your car. Of course if your friend is on the forum, I hope he doesn't take offense.

 

I've had a couple Z06 Corvettes and I enjoyed drag racing them to a point... As a car with wider rear tires (325-345s) and not much weight over the back, they are very hard to launch consistently. Because I wasn't willing to alter the rear suspension, larger drag radials were only as good as the track and my technique.

I'm up to around 1000 1/4 mile passes, all but 50 or so with various manual transmissions, and I can say with authority that a Corvette that isn't totally dedicated to drag racing is going to be extremely inconsistent even in the best hands. There are people who specialize in it... "Ranger" on the Corvette Forum has been famous for getting every last .001 second out of various levels of stock suspension and drivelines. But 99% of the rest of Corvette owners are running various 1.9-2.3 60' times (no matter their motor mods).

On the other hand, the 991 TTS (at stage 2 or less) is absolutely trivial to launch and doesn't vary nearly as much based on track prep or conditions.

I'm happy to race Z06s in my E63 wagon all day long... I've never lost to a Corvette yet (there's something deeply satisfying about beating fast cars with a station wagon, so I've got about 50 passes in the wagon). The TTS should beat damn near almost everything that doesn't have a full cage, bias ply tires, and no mufflers.

 

lmao thanks wrs - see you sound like a real car guy! All my friends basically sold their cars and now drive CRV's lol I need new friends. Thanks for the well wishes. I don't think he posts on the forum

 

Damn E-Gear, I owned a Vette 40 years ago, it was fun but not particularly fast. It was a 75 four speed roadster with the pop top. I am not anti-Vette but the Porsche is definitely the cooler car and was back then as well. I also used to ride that Yamaha RD350 on the basketball court in the background.

 

But, to be fair, you're wearing the Adidas shirt for European flair. Which is sort of like driving a Porsche (with shoes on.)

 

LOL! My first car was a '59 TR3. I have a picture of me in that somewhere but I won't post it. I really wanted a new TR6 but there weren't any in stock when I got the Vette. I had been shopping around for a new 76 Camaro or 76 TR6 but I couldn't find a Camaro I liked and the Vette was marked down to $8500 with only 5k miles. The new ones were $10k and it sucked me in along with my money...............

 

Austin, right? You sure there wasn't a Chevelle in there named "Melba Toast"?