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Thats what I was thinking..$140k for a 911S.
To the OP..enjoy in good health man.
I am looking at just a base 991S with a manual, sport seats and sport PASM, thats it. Right under $100k.
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After getting the CTT, I'm almost kicking myself for not putting the ceramic brakes in. Yes, it's a lot of money, but once you start making the payments, you say to yourself, it's only like $50 more a month.
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Ya, options are crazy. But I would get rid of all the aesthetic stuff first and make sure all the performance options were in there. For instance, the interior leather stuff you can live without, but I would be on the fence with getting the ceramic brakes. Aftermarket to install is like $20k, but through the configurator, it's only $8500. Tough choices indeed.
After getting the CTT, I'm almost kicking myself for not putting the ceramic brakes in. Yes, it's a lot of money, but once you start making the payments, you say to yourself, it's only like $50 more a month.
After getting the CTT, I'm almost kicking myself for not putting the ceramic brakes in. Yes, it's a lot of money, but once you start making the payments, you say to yourself, it's only like $50 more a month.
I wouldn't do the brakes, even people with 997s that have the PCCBs rip them off the car and switch to the regular brakes with upgraded pads, fluid and lines. Part replacement is very expensive for the PCCBs.
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I liked the first part of this thread the most—before the criticisms on how much it cost. I was going to ignore the critics and bask in the compliments, but I feel like I must explain.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
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I liked the first part of this thread the most—before the criticisms on how much it cost. I was going to ignore the critics and bask in the compliments, but I feel like I must explain.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
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I liked the first part of this thread the most—before the criticisms on how much it cost. I was going to ignore the critics and bask in the compliments, but I feel like I must explain.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
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I liked the first part of this thread the most—before the criticisms on how much it cost. I was going to ignore the critics and bask in the compliments, but I feel like I must explain.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
I have had highly optioned cars before. I lose some money on them but the worst thing I can think of is spending a lot of money and then wishing I had done one more thing. The exact same yearning that makes me trade a perfectly good, absolutely fabulous car in on a new one also makes me yearn for the pricey options. I wouldn't be thrilled with the new car if it had less "goodies" than the ones I had before. I first tried the PCCB's in 1995. The few I've had without them have been lacking. I missed them with their smoother, more controlled ride over undulating surfaces, their better handling, the fact that the wheels are not the first thing to get dirty after you wash it, and the looks of the yellow against the black. I usually get them. On the few times I didn't, the car was not considered a keeper (I know, none really are) and I traded earlier, probably losing more money than the ceramics cost.
I had a Panamera with most of the options and I got used to them. I was glad when Porsche finally put the convenience of automatic headlights, passive keyless convenience, parking sensors (which I used to pass on because of the dimples) that are displayed in the PCM in their sports cars. I might not have gone back to a 911 without those conveniences.
I have no problem with someone getting a lightly optioned 911. That's what is so great about Porsche. Even without those pricey options you get a car that is probably better than 99% of the cars out there. But, if you have had highly optioned cars before, it is hard to leave anything out that you already know you've enjoyed.
A Burmester is a great stereo. Would you trade a car with Burmester in on one without it?
You know, you only live once. If you can swing it, why not enjoy what is probably one of the most important parts of your life.
I would NEVER criticize another person's choices in cars. That, their wife, and their dog, are COMPLETELY their choice. Even if I would do differently, I would not complain about their choices. I was taught that that was not polite so i would surely not bring it up.
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I liked the second part of your post - after the rejection of others' opinions about how much you paid for options on a $96k car. I was going to ignore your criticisms and bask in the explanations, but I feel like I must explain.
They were simple questions/comments. I don't think anybody rejected YOUR choice for YOUR car, just simply pointing out things that WE would need some form of justification for OUR purchases.
I, like you, like to get the very best a company has to offer (outlined in another thread no too long ago). I am one of those guys who gets every single option available for every car, because you never know if you might NEED any given feature. My issue was not "Man, why did you pay almost 50% of the value of a car for added features?", but rather,"How did you justify to yourself paying almost 50% of the value of the car for added features?" Which, by the way, was done extremely well and tasteful, in my opinion (which I noticed you didn't ask for, but isn't it implied when posted on a public forum?).
What was wrong with addressing the comments? I don't think anybody here criticized your decision OR your car. I believe you may misinterpreted that. Perhaps there is an underlying issue that needs to be identified and resolved...
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Love the car and option choices except maybe for PCCB but damn they look great!
I have a 107k Cayman from the factory, I would not thought it possible until I got the Porsche COA and the sticker. ( I bought it used for well under 1/2 17 months after the original owner) I love that Porsche allows you to build it the way you want as opposed to Audi, BMW etc.
I will be watching your threads in the future as a 991 Targa is on my radar and I look forward to your reviews and comments.
Again, excellent car and choices.
I have a 107k Cayman from the factory, I would not thought it possible until I got the Porsche COA and the sticker. ( I bought it used for well under 1/2 17 months after the original owner) I love that Porsche allows you to build it the way you want as opposed to Audi, BMW etc.
I will be watching your threads in the future as a 991 Targa is on my radar and I look forward to your reviews and comments.
Again, excellent car and choices.
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When you say expensive, how much are we talking about? From my understanding the rotors are good for 200k miles so the only thing to replace would be the pads. Am I wrong on this? If so, how much are the pads? I would think install costs would be the same as any other brakes.
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Rotors will not last 200,000 miles. That is a bit extreme. When it is time for replacement cpect a bill near $10,000 o refurb PCCBs.
Unless you are a track animal the benefit of them is minimal. They really don't work well cold or wet. They are best when hot and normal daily driving doesn't get them / keep them all that hot!
Save your cash or spend it on othr options.
Unless you are a track animal the benefit of them is minimal. They really don't work well cold or wet. They are best when hot and normal daily driving doesn't get them / keep them all that hot!
Save your cash or spend it on othr options.
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Rotors will not last 200,000 miles. That is a bit extreme. When it is time for replacement cpect a bill near $10,000 o refurb PCCBs.
Unless you are a track animal the benefit of them is minimal. They really don't work well cold or wet. They are best when hot and normal daily driving doesn't get them / keep them all that hot!
Save your cash or spend it on othr options.
Unless you are a track animal the benefit of them is minimal. They really don't work well cold or wet. They are best when hot and normal daily driving doesn't get them / keep them all that hot!
Save your cash or spend it on othr options.