Your new here so I have to ask is this your first Porsche.

And please don't get get offended but you say some odd things.

No one likes body roll? Are you sure?

And slow with a manual? A good driver in a manual will destroy a newbie with a PDK around a track. The tranny is only one part of being a fast driver.

I understand you love your car and it's a great one and a great pick up but please don't get carried away.


Oh..forget what I just wrote..you should get carried away. You own a monster of a performance car.

Good luck.

 

i think you got me wrong, i am not complaining at all.
i just wanted to explain that the 911s of old were more dangerous/challenging and they needed a driver that was familiar with its famous rear-engined motoring quirkiness. the new one can be driven at ridicilous speeds, even by newbies (not that i would recommend that, cause even a 991 can crash)

some may ask, how can it be bad that all these fear factors have been erased in the 991?! and they are right!
and some may answer, well it´s what made the 911 unique and a bit more challenging/special than others. and they are right too!

 

Can they race with the windows up?

 

That challenge is yet to be addressed- and it is disappointing to hear it wasn't identified and fixed in testing. I've got to think that if it is as much of an issue as people have described, it will be addressed.

ChuckJ

 

Yeah..my response is tongue in cheek but it is somewhat disappointing to hear.

It will have to be addressed.

 

Sorry for what I started - I am fairly certain that I am going to order a Boxster S with Full Leather, Sport Plus seats, Infotainment, Conv. Pkg., PASM, 6 Speed, Sport Chrono, 20" 991S wheels, yellow seat belt and some other goodies. I do like the 991 but I know that I will regret a base one with limited options.

I am going to take an extended test drive in a PDK 991S this week to get a real feel for the PDK. I am very torn on the transmission choice. I hate that I find myself driving my M3 in full auto mode 90% of the time and that the DCT, like all modern automatics gets to the highest gear possible in a quest for fuel economy. Manual will save me nearly $5k over a PDK given the cost of the PDK and the added costs to the sport chrono and sport steering wheel to get paddles.

 

you asked a question that many will be asking once the 981's hit the dealers.

It will be interesting to hear feedback once they are in dealers and are available for test drives.

I prefer manuals but no doubt PDK is a technological marvel. If you get it paddles are probable a good bet.

 

Thanks Buckwheat. Yes, first Porsche. Did several long test drives in a 2009 C4S, 2011 C, Cayman, Cayman R with turbocharger (500+HP), and then the 991. Also test drove Z06 Vette, Camero, Nissan GT-R, and Nissan 300Z before coming to my decision. Previously owned Starion Turbo, Mitsu 3000GT, and Volvo V70R (all with manuals). Obviously an expert driver in a manual will beat a newbie with PDK, but the same driver in both will definitely be faster in the PDK. In sport plus mode, the PDK keeps the engine perfectly in the power band at all times with lightening fast shifts. So far, I don't miss the manual at all....

 

Definitely. Those little buttons just don't cut it for me.

 

I didn't miss the manual when I first got my DCT M3 but the novelty of the paddles wore off quickly for me. Now I find that I rarely shift for myself.

 

What an odd car in that mix! What's with that?

 

This actually sounds like a nice car but why get rid of the M3 . I also have a 2011 M3 and even though mine is a manual the newer model DCT is quite good . The M3 is the last normally aspirated power M car . I had 36K miles on my 08 before i bought the 11 car and it did not even hiccup once .

I actually like the M3 more than the Boxster at 77K price as a daily driver . The Boxster would make a great weekend car .

 

Typo. Ment 370Z. Sorry. Figured I could get a used one for little money (and guilt). Could even keep it outside instead of kicking the Jeep out of the garage. Then I read about the bad brake fade problem on Car and Driver, and all the testing they did only to find that it couldn't completely be solved even with racing pads and different brake fluid. Crossed that car off my list because I didn't want to end up in the wall at the track ....

 

You drove a car in break in period in sport plus through the power bands ?

I have a PDK 09 car as well as an EVT700 07 Turbo . The newer PDK in your car is more sophisticated than mine and that's the problem .. it will keep evolving wheras a 6 speed manual is timeless . With the new 7 speed manual PDK will take the lead only to become dated quickly .

At 130K when the technology goes down the depreciation plummets .
After buying 9 Porsches I can sincely say that the cost adds up but now the stakes have grown even larger with higher pricetags and larger risk exposure to the downside of the dated gadgets .

 

Go 6spd, nothing shifts as great as a Porsche in MT. There will be lots of opportunity to buy Pdk or Dct in the future.