Viking - I wasn't under the impression that you were suggesting that communicate with in.

Had I pulled over (as was previously suggested) it could have led to some other absurd situation. Not worth it in my book.

You don't need 15 mins of tailgating to run my tags. Get my plates, run them while you keep me in your sights, and move on.

A pointless and dangerous exercise on his part...

 

Thanks CP,

I'm sure it's especially disheartening to an alum like yourself...

 

In the mid-1990s, I had a LEO threaten to hang me from a tree for going 10 mph over the speed limit. He pulled me over, called me every name in the book (I was very polite & kept my hands in plain sight) while keeping his hand on his holstered weapon the entire time. When I got tired of all the name calling, I interrupted him and stoically and politely said, officer if you would please give me my ticket I'll be on my way. Then he threatened to kill me if he caught me speeding again. No ticket was issued. I memorized him badge number and called it into his watch commander at the National Park Police.

His watch commander said the officer never called in the traffic stop.

I was on the GW Parkway for those familiar with DC metro area next the entrance to 395. I sped up to avoid a tourist pointing at the monuments instead of driving his vehicle. Some LEOs need to be fired. If they can't handle the stress of the job or won't get mental health counseling they need to be removed from duty ASAP. Don't tolerate bad cops because someone like that may eventual harm a good citizen.

Just my two cents and no, I was not wearing my Usamma bin Ladin clothes.

 

Game, set and match.. You win!!

I've got nothing. I'm out...

 

We had a pair of police officers in Vancouver that used to tailgate you (in a ghost car) through a park area where speed was 18 mph. They would ride your bumper until you sped up. I figured it out but my buddy, in new Porsche, sped up and got the ticket.

John in Vancouver

 

Kind of only semi-related, but the general thing suggested to do when being tailgated is to slow down. It forces the perp behind you to either make the gap bigger, or pass you.
Or in the case of a popo, make him either pull you over or go around and away.

PS: It seems like more often that not nowadays, when someone's tailgating me, it's a soccer mom in a giant SUV. She's got a cellphone glued to her ear even though you know the truck she's driving has bluetooth.

 

As a foreigner, what struck me from day one in California was the utter disrespect for the law exhibited by LEOs on a daily basis. This is not to say that *all* LEOs do that, but rather that if you'd pick a public place somewhere and wait for an hour, chances are you'll see a LEO making a mockery of the law. Be it obscene speeding, double-parking, clearly taking a break while on the job, walking across a red light, not keeping safe distance, and the like.

The reason why it struck me is that where I am from, Police pride themselves on setting an example of lawfulness. And, as representatives of civil order, they are held to a higher standard than ordinary citizens (as they should be). Here it seems they are beyond the law. Maybe that's what CarreraPete meant by "Whyatt Earp" syndrome.

Again, not trying to generalize, it's just an observation.

 

Well, it's worse in Miami.

Exhibit A: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Miami-D...135314938.html

Exhibit B: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1393364.html

Exhibit C:
I could go on and on and on. Lame.

 

Don't you have a secret flap to release :
1/ heavy oil
2/ nails
3/ smoke
??

I am thinking I actually would stop and ask him if he got lost. LOL

 

I had a similar funny story. I was traveling on an unlighted and very dark side road. I turned onto a lighted, 4 lane main street and within 100 feet pulled up to a stop light in the left turn lane, noticed my bright lights were on and went to dim. A couple of seconds later, a policeman who was facing me turned on his red lights and motioned me over. I asked him what I had done wrong and he referenced my high beams. I told him that I had just turned on from a very dark street and dimmed them as soon as practical. He said, well I'm giving you a ticket for it. I said: "don't you have any higher priority tasks?". When we got to court the policeman wasn't there and the district attorney said we would like to continue this because the policeman wasn't able to make the date and this is a very special case! The judge asked me if I wanted a continuance. Guess what I said- and he dismissed the case.

ChuckJ

 

Reminds me of this one: one night while driving on a very dark and straight road without any street illumination a car headed towards me with high beam on. I couldn't see a thing so slowed down and kept to the far right. After some time, as the car came closer, the light became painfully bright, so I flashed my headlights twice to get the other guy to switch to low beam. No avail. When the car finally passed me, I saw it spin around and realized it was a cop. Needless to say, a second later he pulled me over. When I asked him what the problem was he said "you flashed your headlights". WTF? Me: "I couldn't see a thing and almost had to stop on the side of the road because you blinded me!" He: Nothing. Came back with my license after 10 minutes and told me not to flash my headlights because he assumed I was drunk.

 

Not sure if I really want to step into this one as I was not there nor do I have all the facts of the incident. A few things we do not have, the officers side of this situation. Already in case you have not figured it out by now I am an Leo myself.
I would agree with you on the following to close ( not necessary). How ever again it's likely it was not 15 min as I could be half way across a city in that amount of time, you would have made many more lefts then 4 It may have felt that way because you we're uncomfortable with what you thought was going on.
Im not sure what happened to draw his attention to you but allow me to give you 1 possible scenario of several that may have happened ( police lingo) me calling dispatch 634 : (dispatcher) 634 go ahead copy license info: go ahead 634 lic 453 TMO missouri DOR (department of revenue) wait wait wait 634 your lic comes back not on file no further. Me 634 can you check the hot sheet radio 632 had a stolen porsche silver in color stolen on Monday can you check and see if it was recovered? (Dispatcher) stand by 634 we are 10-6 (busy) on a 911 call. Copy mam. 2-3 min 634 we are attempting to make contact with property crimes to see if that vehicle was recovered. Copy. 1min 634 that vehicle was recovered last night on dog watch. 634 copy's 10-8.

Do you see how that took a while. We just don't know the story. How ever I to will admit ther are some newbies out ther that give us good ones a bad rap and unfortunately it hurts all of us. There would have been nothing wrong if you would have stopped in a parking lot and if he stopped he would have most likely have explained what's up. Don't be upset! Again we don't have all the facts.

 

I can't believe how many of you are surprised by the puerile behavior of local and state coppers.

I can't tell you how many times I have seen and heard these guys in court rambling off their "versions" of "motor vehicular stops incident to officer's observation [yes they talk in the third person] of probable cause" in support of busts for minuscule amounts of drugs or contraband. They testify to "observing weaving," the ubiquitous "broken tail light," or my particular favorite, "lack of tread [how they ever saw that on a moving vehicle ] on rear tires."

Many of these guys are the same jokers who barely graduated from high school and just have a bee up their nose for anyone driving an exotic car.

That said, there are a significant number of hard working, honest and diligent officers risking their lives to keep us all safe. Then again, we rarely see those guys because they are doing their job and not busting our chops.

...I have what in my opinion is a secret weapon. The possession of the weapon results in the fact that I am never bothered by local or other police...I'm bald and I am a 58 year old white guy and as such am virtually invisible to the police. What they see is a "citizen" as opposed to a "perp" - it is a sad fact that I benefit from the prejudices of the average police officer...it also helps that I don't do stupid stuff with the $100k+ car.

 

Reasonable, TO. Here are the facts that count most. A 991S brakes from 60 to 0 mph in 102 ft. A Crown Vic Interceptor does the same in 145 ft. If the officer has lightening reflexes and hits his brakes at the same time as a driver of a sports car, the officer still crashes into the back of the car like a retard.

A neighborhood child, cat or a deer in the road could have changed the outcome of the gentleman's situation. Tailgating is reckless, more so than speeding. The officer should be reported to the shift supervisor at a minimum so we don't see this happen to a family. Really there's no excuse that is acceptable. Communication with the dispatch is not the issue.

 

Situations like this always make me think of installing fore and aft track cameras on the car.