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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by certified_prime
* Exhaust sounds more aggressive when applying throttle
Are we sure about this one? Does the throttle note actually change on a base car without PSE? It obviously can't make it louder, does it just add a little extra burble when you let off the gas? How can it make the exhaust any more aggressive when applying throttle? It can't open any valves in the normal non-PSE system.
 
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Originally Posted by hawc
That's what I ordered. A 991 3.4 PDK with no options (except 20" wheels.)

Is it possible to program the car to have the Sport button on by default if it's so obviously a better state to have it in? Does it have to turn itself off each time you turn the car off?

No
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hawc
Are we sure about this one? Does the throttle note actually change on a base car without PSE? It obviously can't make it louder, does it just add a little extra burble when you let off the gas? How can it make the exhaust any more aggressive when applying throttle? It can't open any valves in the normal non-PSE system.
Sound symposer kicks in. That's what accounts for the sound
 
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Is it worth getting the sport chrono if I want the PDK? I read it's mostly for launch control but is it worth it. Just wondering if I get a deal in a 911 with no sport chrono should I pass?
 
Old Apr 7, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 19hole
You can completely disable the upshift triangle in the PCM options.
Can you also guide me through this. I haven't found that menu. i have a 2014 C2S. The triangle comes on even in Sport or Sport Plus despite the manual saying it shouldn't. What year is your model. Maybe they changed it?
 
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Originally Posted by Leverageconsult
Is it worth getting the sport chrono if I want the PDK? I read it's mostly for launch control but is it worth it. Just wondering if I get a deal in a 911 with no sport chrono should I pass?
I joke with the dealers and my friends at Porsche Canada that Porsche tires to sell Sport Chrono harder than any other option on the car. Porsche is crazy for Sport Chrono. If you're not using Launch Control and you don't want a little stopwatch on the dash I personally wouldn't bother (I didn't.) But powerful forces out there would disagree with me.
 
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Originally Posted by frenzy
Thanks for the replies!

So consensus it doesn't do much, especially if you run it in manual PDK. I'm surprised about the oil temp dropping though.

ChuckJ: yep, I finally found a low optioned PDK. lot car with PDK + sports steering which is all i wanted. Had a few non performance extra which i could of done without or traded it all for lower price or sports chrono, but i digress.
Not completely true.. What you find is that when you are in manual PDK, the shift crispness or response is much better as you get to sport or sport+. When you leave it in normal, and manual shift with PDK it is really sloppy.. Down shifts are pretty quick, but upshifts seem to just do it when it wants to... Sport+ is better and is much closer to the response you would get with a M7..
 
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Originally Posted by hawc
Sound symposer is just there though. It's just a permanent pipe. It doesn't 'kick in' or 'kick off' it's just there. There's no way of changing it. There's no valves opening or closing in this pipe. Sound symposer can't change.
Yes there is a valve, the sport button activates the sound symposer, sound is noticeable deeper inside the car with the sport button engaged.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by galion
Yes there is a valve, the sport button activates the sound symposer, sound is noticeable deeper inside the car with the sport button engaged.
I stand corrected. My apologies.
 
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Originally Posted by certified_prime
spot on!

Oddly enough, that darn dummy light in Normal mode really annoys me. It is constantly on above 1500 rpm. It is just a small triangle, but half the time I engage Sport Mode JUST to get rid of that darn annoying triangle.
It can be turned off via PCM settings. It was the first thing I did when I picked up my car 23,000 miles ago and I have not seen it since!
 
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Don't forget that you get Dynamic Engine Mounts wit hthe Sport Chrono option. These alone are woth the option price.
 
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Originally Posted by hawc
That's what I ordered. A 991 3.4 PDK with no options (except 20" wheels.)

Is it possible to program the car to have the Sport button on by default if it's so obviously a better state to have it in? Does it have to turn itself off each time you turn the car off?
I've never heard any way to do that. Congrats on your purchase, I'm sure you'll have a great time with it!

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[QUOTE=frenzy;3745303]Thanks for the replies!

So consensus it doesn't do much, especially if you run it in manual PDK. I'm surprised about the oil temp dropping though.

In all 911s regardless of options, it changes the feel of the car. The sport setting speeds up shifts, changes the shift map to hold gears longer in the non-manual shift mode, and disables start-stop and sailing. In S models it does more because the S comes with more performance stuff to control. With PSE it does PSE stuff too.
 

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Originally Posted by hawc
I joke with the dealers and my friends at Porsche Canada that Porsche tires to sell Sport Chrono harder than any other option on the car. Porsche is crazy for Sport Chrono. If you're not using Launch Control and you don't want a little stopwatch on the dash I personally wouldn't bother (I didn't.) But powerful forces out there would disagree with me.


Agree with this ^^^^.
 
Old Apr 8, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Leverageconsult
Is it worth getting the sport chrono if I want the PDK? I read it's mostly for launch control but is it worth it. Just wondering if I get a deal in a 911 with no sport chrono should I pass?
I would say even launch control isn't a reason to get SC. With PDK + Sport Design steering wheel you already have poor-man's launch control:

1. Pull both paddles to put into neutral
2. Left foot on brake (PDK won't let you pop back into gear without brake)
3. Right foot rev to 5000-6000 (I forget what Launch Control uses)
4. When you're ready pull back on the + paddle and release brake
5. bye-bye
 
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