I guess it's a little funny, but I've never had a trans problem in any of my 4 GT-Rs? They've all been 100% rock solid.

 

Chance - I realize you're being sarcastic, but I'm a GT-R owner (had 4) and a Porsche owner (currently on my 5th). I also have a 991 GT3 on order. I'm not a hater at all. I just realize that the GT-R is one of the best sports cars on the planet (just like Porsche) and absolutely love the things. But then, I'm also a true car enthusiast who appreciates world-class cars, regardless of the badge that they wear.

 

This thread is full of win.

 

Luv it!! +infinity

 

Of course, no comparison! You want RESPECT? Get a 911 TT or 991 TT! Enough said...

 

GT-R's are great cars, from what I hear. I didn't realize they are in the same price bracket as 911's. I thought they used to be much less expensive. Hey, can't argue with a twin-turbo V-6 and AWD.

 

Looks like moderators have done their job on this thread, so I'm back to offer a few more opinions.

This is SO true. I would even go as far as saying that for petrolheads, the badge AND the car do not always matter. I am often driving rentals, and there is nothing I like more than go from a Mustang to a Prius to an old Marquis, etc. Everytime, it is a different experience from an engine, drivetrain, suspension, fit and finish standpoint. I would of course not buy 99% of these cars and there are a number of them that I totally hate and immediately ask Avis for something else (Chevy Impala and Chrysler 200) and then get a Corolla which is a much better car than what people would usually admit.
Foodies like top restaurants with a one year waiting list as much as an authentic local BBQ joint...

Back to our topic, and I think someone mentioned it already, there is, at least in the US, a badge issue with the GT-R. I do not care if the badge would say Nissan, Datsun or XYZ, but the car is so far out of the normal Nissan range that being serviced by a Nissan dealership is not optimum when you buy a $100k+ road beast. They for sure have a sales guy and couple of techs that have been trained for it but the dealership experience is probably not up to what you would expect in this price range.

I know there is no general rule -and Japergtr had a different experience-, but from my local experience in North Atlanta (in terms of personalized service, speed of resolution of issues, quality of loaners, etc.): Chrysler < Honda < VW < Audi = Infiniti << Porsche. Nothing surprising here (and the price of an oil change follows the same ranking of course), but, maybe, the GTR should be distributed by Infiniti. Not to mention the 'no test ride' rule. I am invited to the Porsche World Roadshow next week and usually get a test ride in any new model even if I have no intention to buy one. But this is why I like my dealership and it is part of the brand experience. Nothing snob there, just getting what you (dearly) pay for.

 

What did the moderators do?

And - regarding the marketing - the reasons for it being a Nissan vs Infiniti is well documented, and explained.

The no test ride rule has been discussed a LOT, even here on this forum. But this does not include GT-R events, where people are invited to drive new GT-R's and NISMO Z's. I'll assume those that want to know what those are, already know.

Service dept's vary from dealer to dealer, and sometimes even service rep to service rep (or tech to tech). It's a hit or miss... And 90% of all service reps in all dealerships are retarded, so the percentage goes down no matter which brand you get. But the service procedure for the GT-R is different, and had been discussed a LOT here on 6speed as well.

And the Skyline GT-R's have been sold at that price range (above average) in other places, it just seems unusual for people in the 'States, because this is the first one we get.

 

They started out in '08 in the $70k range to gauge market value, but now they sticker well above $100k and the market supports it.

My particular GT-R, with the work that's been done to it, has about as much into it as the MSRP for a Turbo S. But it's also twice the car a Turbo S is, so I personally feel it's a good deal.

Regardless, I love Porsches (my favorite automotive brand by far), and I also love GT-Rs. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, and it's perfectly appropriate for people to share their opinions about them. However, I believe that unless you've owned and spent a significant amount of time living with both....it's very difficult to have a truly informed, objective opinion about how the two cars actually compare to one another.

 

I'm also curious about what the moderators have done here? What's different?

Curious to understand what makes a good service day when you take your car to the dealership? I've been to a ton of them...Chevy, BMW, Porsche, Ford, MB, Audi, Toyota and Chrysler (haven't been to the Nissan shop yet). They all have been cognizant of my time, listened to my reason for being in for service, provided a rental car and sent me on my way. What more is there when it comes to a service apt?

 

Maybe Porsche should come out with a model GE-R, for "get engine replaced" because of IMS failure in previous cars.

 

They could but contrary to forum belief, IMS failures are extremely low. When the GTR was first introduced, they had transmission issue when used with launch control. That was far more prevalent. Either way, proves once again, never to get first year models of any car. I've learned my lesson with the 2003 Nissan Murano, everything started to break, lucky for me, it was a month before warranty expired. My co-workers who still has a 2004 models had no problems at all.

 

Contrary to forum belief there are FAR fewer issues from Launch Control (LC1) than the transmission in general.

This issue was only present for a few months (until Jan 2009). There have been issues in higher mileage shift forks (that can be replaced under warranty) with no issue, and has been addressed in later models of the transmission.

So I'm curious to hear where you learned these were far more prevalent. Based on sales of 2009 GT-R's that were sold with LC1 (limited numbers - I can get these for you, if you'd like), and that this was changed in Jan of 2009, I'd suggest they may be more sensationalized on the interwebz, and far less common than one might believe.

We could discuss actual numbers - but those aren't as exciting as the ones that people believe.

 

Read on several articles, one being japonik if I recall correctly. And of course the forums but been on car forums long enough to know that many people join just to find help so I usually don't count those. At that time I remember it was all that was talked about when talking about the GT-R.

 

Low enough that Porsche had to settle a class action lawsuit regarding IMS failure.