That is why I don't buy my cars from either Hennessy or Jim Ellis anymore.

Without going into specifics, my dealer not only gave me a choice of their 2 GT3 allocations (now till end of 2014), but they automatically have applied my usual deal (please don't ask what that is as I won't reveal it) without a word from me. They are a small dealer who really look after their customers. Loyalty pays.

We digress so back to topic. OP, I spent a fair bit of time at the dealership today and talked a lot about the GT3. Whichever route you go you will not be disappointed. One really cannot compare the GT3 to a Turbo. They are both staggeringly different and will be incredible drives. You have a fun dilemma.

 

I'm going to try and PM you with a question! Not regarding your dealer price so no worries!

 

No worries. I look forward to your pm.

 

I have a confirmed allocation as well. My dealer still thinks most people would be happier with a C4S. He let me drive it today (C4s) and it felt like a completely different car to mine (my car is a base 991 7MT). I really liked it and it felt so much more planted tan my car. The problem I have is this....if I settled for a C4s...would I always wonder about the GT3 or would I be relieved that I got the more livable car....I still have my deposit on the GT3. Just hoping someone here takes delivery early and can tell the rest of us what they are really like to live with. On that note...when are the first deliveries expected....seems like they have been out so long in videos, reviews and websites and nobody has one...

 

Well I have had a C2S for a few weeks and already think I will upgrade some time in the next year or so. I have always wanted a GT3 or Turbo but the cost of a used C2S was what I wanted to spend.

I don't think I will ever want to spend what a new GT3 or Turbo would cost so it might be while. I can't see getting an older GT3 for daily driving and think an older Turbo would be trading HP for a better handling car and PDK in the 991. So it looks like I will have to suffer with the measly C2S.

 

lol! Do I want a C2S, or a GT3, or a Turbo?

... What?

 

A tough decision... buy one of each!

You must drive each model and then decide. I am looking forward to driving the GT3 to see what I am 'missing'.

 

I've never seen anyone actually debate whether a C2S or Turbo is better for them. Usually, people who prefer power and stability prefer the Turbo. They are more opposite than the Turbo vs GT3 (which comes with compromises for driving away from the track - as most track oriented cars have).

Yes, from what we hear (I haven't driven a 991 GT3), there seems to be more tolerable ride for the daily drive, but I'd speculate the Turbo would net equal or similar ride quality improvements.

 

I would check outside states too, I am from Oregon and end up getting my car in Washington. As for DD, everyone's preference for a DD are different. My 991s on KW V3 I LUV them, yes they are stiffer then SPort Pasm mode, but the driving pleasure you get back totally worth it. Quicker turn in, more steering feel, to me it was worth it. I hate to wait when I want to buy something, if I wait till now, I would order me a GT3 instead of dumping so much money into my 991s to make it drive better. I enjoy track days, so if you don't plan on tracking the car and not the aggressive driver type, then the 991s is perfect. Can't go wrong with either one

 

Thanks for all the great responses.

I come from track friendly E92 M3's..

While I don't track them as much as I want due to work, I like the feeling of a track car on the road. Which I could take up to the canyon. Now this is a car I'd pick up almost 10 months from now, which is why I opened up my options to it. I'm doing a European Delivery on whichever car I choose. 991S is the good balanced car. GT3 is the track friendly car. Turbo is the well balanced car with a LOT more power. But at 148k starting price, I worry if it's a little much. The GT3 is priced 20k less and comes with more unique properties than the Turbo. And hows the allocation on the Turbo? Are they easier to get than GT3's?

I mean, I have to study up and learn what I can before I go spend 100k on a car maybe not suitable! I wish I could just test drive them and get it over with, but that's the problem.. the cars are rare as it is, let alone getting a test drive, but the clock is ticking and allocations are going away as we speak!

 

My understanding from dealers is that the price of the 991 turbo, coupled with the early reviews touting the GT3's more compliant ride, has pushed the GT3's desirability even higher.

My order is in:

GT3
white/black leather red stitching
black headlights
front axle lift
white dials/white sportchrono
navigation
sound package plus
XM
heated seats

about 147K (no dealer markup - order states MSRP) delivery early 2014

Haku, you're gonna be a popular guy once you get your car. Can't wait to hear what it's like on "real-world" streets and impressions as a DD.

 

Right now, turbo's are easier to get than GT3's - mostly a price issue from what I hear.

 

Alan, nice spec. I'm actually omitting the front axle lift. The lift doesn't raise the car a whole lot and it'll be cheaper to replace the plastic clip-on base bit on the front spoiler should it get damaged. I had a similar issue in my 997.2 GT3 and ended up just being cautious and never breaking it.

Ah.... Never been much on the popularity ladder and I think I may even miss the boat as your car may turn up earlier! My order is in but production isn't due until 2nd quarter 2014. So get ready for fan mail matey!

Agree. My dealer confirmed the above. There will be turbos aplenty. I think Porsche are trying to create an even more niche clientele for the GT models and are severely limiting production. Having stated that, business is business and if demand is strong production will surely be ramped up.

 

I'd also say that the primary factor in the increased demand and popularity of the new GT3 is the PDK transmission. Porsche has introduced this car to a whole new market of buyers.

While it may be difficult to get one of the first model year cars, I predict that Porsche will produce and sell more 991 GT3's than any previous generation.

 

I agree with both of your comments. The heavy clutch of the 997 GT3 was very different than that of the standard 997. When I test drove the 997 GT3, I could imagine myself being pretty miserable stuck in NY area traffic with that car. On your second point, I'm counting on Porsche marketing making great use of the GT3 name and image in the 991 version, to specify a car that is far more civilized for the road and thus far more desirable as a DD. By comparison, I have driven the 991S with PASM in sport mode and I find that my Audi TT-S and R8 V10 feel more stiffly sprung when they are in sport mode (which is how I drive those cars). And few cars could be worse on potholed roads than my wife's Mini Cooper S, so I'm not too worried about ride quality being acceptable. I guess we'll find out.