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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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So, I've been looking for a few weeks for a 991s and have found two viable options but need a bit of help in deciding between the two. Price is roughly the same. No 1 is from a dealer interstate, No 2 is local to me. No 1 has all of my core options except that I would get the Carrera S wheels painted in platinum.

1) 2012 Agate Grey Carrera S. 5233km. Options;
-Silver Carrera S Wheels
-PDK
-Sports Chrono
-Sports Exhaust
-Sports Steering wheel with paddles
-Park Assist front & rear
-TPMS

or

2) 2012 Agate Grey Carrera S. 5988km Options;
-Carrera Classic Wheels
-5mm spacers
-S-PASM -PDK -Sports Exhaust
-sports chrono
-Entry & Drive,
-Park Assist front & rear,
-Electric slide/tilt sunroof,
-Power steering Plus,
-Light design package,
-Adaptive Sports seats Plus (18 way electric) with memory package
-Porsche crest embossed on head restraints.

So, as you can see No 2 is loaded but my two concerns are that S-PASM will be just a bit too low for daily driving and I'd need to know that I could get the steering wheel replaced with paddles if I cant get used to the button system. Remember I'm coming from an M3 so I love paddles Any thoughts or feedback would be great Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:39 PM
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Forget about the wheel colors.
Go with the first one: it has the right steering wheel (saves you $1k as I am sure you would have replaced the steering wheel on #2). It does not have a sunroof (lighter car, lower center of gravity) and if you end up wanting a firmer suspension, stiffer springs that lower the car 20mm without compromising the ride are only a few hundred $$. You can also use #2 to negotiate a lower price for #1 (less options) and buy a few more goodies (or get your wheels painted) with the difference
 
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Originally Posted by SM_ATL
Forget about the wheel colors.
Go with the first one: it has the right steering wheel (saves you $1k as I am sure you would have replaced the steering wheel on #2). It does not have a sunroof (lighter car, lower center of gravity) and if you end up wanting a firmer suspension, stiffer springs that lower the car 20mm without compromising the ride are only a few hundred $$. You can also use #2 to negotiate a lower price for #1 (less options) and buy a few more goodies (or get your wheels painted) with the difference
Some good points. Thanks. Its actually a hard choice.
 
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I agree with SM_ATL.
 
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#2, Hands Down.
SPASAM is low, but you can learn to deal with it.
18 way seats are great.
 
Old Jan 29, 2014 | 03:14 AM
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#1 imo. SC is missing on #2 and I do feel it's important on a PDK as it unlocks its true potential. It's much cheaper to swap springs then adding SC but you won't get DEM.
 

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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tonyep
#1 imo. SC is missing on #2 and I do feel it's important on a PDK as it unlocks its true potential. It's much cheaper to swap springs then adding SC but you won't get DEM.
Oh damn, I just checked and 2 has SC as well!

This is hard!

Since 2 is local I will try and go for a short drive on Friday if I get time, that might help me with my decision.
 
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Easy choice: #2
I have 22k miles in almost 2 yrs on my SPASM equipped 991S, and in NYC (the roads!). Never had an issue with the height (never had to change the front spoiler) other than loving it, and the sleeker lowered look. Added 5/15 spacers (front/back) making it look even better.
Since I bought off the lot I had to endure the standard steering wheel but for $1,500 swapped it a year ago for the Sports Design and now use the paddles on every drive.
Get this one and you won't regret it.
Get #1 and you'll miss out on some of the better, exciting and engaging options available.
 

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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 97c2s993
Easy choice: #2 I have 22k miles in almost 2 yrs on my SPASM equipped 991S, and in NYC (the roads!). Never had an issue with the height (never had to change the front spoiler) other than loving it, and the sleeker lowered look. Added 5/15 spacers (front/back) making it look even better. Since I bought off the lot I had to endure the standard steering wheel but for $1,500 swapped it a far ago out for the Sports Design and now use the paddles on every drive. Get this one and you won't regret it. Get #1 and you'll miss out on some of the better, exciting and engaging options available.
Thanks, so is it a DIY mod to change the wheel or would I need to take it to the dealer? I wouldn't mind knowing what parts I'd need.
 
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It's a dealer job: they will need your VIN also to know what connectors they need/don't need. My $1,500 incl. labor. Note that if the current wheel has 'multi-function' buttons controlling radio, Navi etc., you will lose this functionality. Mine didn't so it was no big deal. You might want to check with a dealer service dept. Should be easy for them to give you a quick estimate.
 
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#1 imo. SC is missing on #2 and I do feel it's important on a PDK as it unlocks its true potential. It's much cheaper to swap springs then adding SC but you won't get DEM.
What true potential does the SportPlus unlock that the stock Sport doesn't ?
 
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What true potential does the SportPlus unlock that the stock Sport doesn't ?
You get delayed upshifts until redline and more agressive downshifting.
It is mostly useless (and kind of annoying) except on a track.

I think Launch Control is another SC exclusive.
 
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Sport plus in manual mode is more aggressive shifting etc. than Sport. Can't use + in auto mode in city but can use manual mode and it's a lot of fun.
 
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I can't imagine sticking a key in the ignition anymore. It's sad that keyless entry is standard on economy cars and not a Porsche.
 
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Sport plus in manual mode is more aggressive shifting etc. than Sport. Can't use + in auto mode in city but can use manual mode and it's a lot of fun.
I have only driven cars with SC (so I do not know what it looks like when you do not have it...), but this statement is perfectly correct. I always use + when I drive manual for that reason.
 


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