What gas do you use?
#31
Shell, Exxon, Mobil, Sunoco, Chevron, any of the majors, at a branded store, that rotates inventory quickly is good. Chevron, with their Techron additive is good, and they put a tad more additive in their branded products than some of the other majors. I'm fortunate, I only run 93 octane non-ethanol fuel in my car, unless I have to travel out of my general area.
#32
Shell, Exxon, Mobil, Sunoco, Chevron, any of the majors, at a branded store, that rotates inventory quickly is good. Chevron, with their Techron additive is good, and they put a tad more additive in their branded products than some of the other majors. I'm fortunate, I only run 93 octane non-ethanol fuel in my car, unless I have to travel out of my general area.
#33
I wouldn't be too concerned about BP not being on the TOP Tier list. As another poster pointed out, to achieve Top Tier status, a company must meet Top Tier standards for all three grades of gas sold. I am pretty sure that BP premium meets or exceeds Top Tier standards. BP is not on the list because they have chosen to not have all three grades of gas meet Top Tier standards.
#34
Where are you able to find non-ethanol fuel? You list several top tier gas companies in your list of preferred stations. If you go to Top Tier's website and read the formulation specs for Top Tier gas, it all contains ethanol. The Top Tier requirements also state that all stations must sell the same gas, so it appears that if you are buying a Top Tier branded fuel, you are getting ethanol included.
I am in the fuel business. We source the 93 octane fuel out of state. Expensive, but good. Our customers love it. Especially the marine, and performance car folks. We can get 90 octane non ethanol gasoline, its cheaper, but when we polled our customers they all wanted the "good" stuff. Keep in mind that all basic fuel must meet established standards. It all comes in off of the ships as the same fuel though. It's the additives that the majors put in that make the difference, and each has their own proprietary blends that make them unique to their brand. Generally speaking, all good. Again, buying branded fuel from reputable stations should ensure good product. A busy station with good inventory turnover helps.
#35
Last edited by Haku; 02-01-2014 at 07:38 AM.
#37
on west coast, anything but ARCO lawn motor gas (BP)!
Shell is usual choice, however Chevron station on the Indian Reservation is cheaper with less tax.....but is 30 miles away and very crowded from selling booze, cigs and now marijuana.
Shell is usual choice, however Chevron station on the Indian Reservation is cheaper with less tax.....but is 30 miles away and very crowded from selling booze, cigs and now marijuana.
#38
I am in the fuel business. We source the 93 octane fuel out of state. Expensive, but good. Our customers love it. Especially the marine, and performance car folks. We can get 90 octane non ethanol gasoline, its cheaper, but when we polled our customers they all wanted the "good" stuff. Keep in mind that all basic fuel must meet established standards. It all comes in off of the ships as the same fuel though. It's the additives that the majors put in that make the difference, and each has their own proprietary blends that make them unique to their brand. Generally speaking, all good. Again, buying branded fuel from reputable stations should ensure good product. A busy station with good inventory turnover helps.
You make the point that they all meet a defined standard, and other than the additives they are all refined pretty much the same way.. Other than octane level does it really matter what fuel brand you use as long as it isn't contaminated...?
I've always pretty much assumed the additives were more about marketing than any real value.. And assuming maybe the special additives do make a diff, in reality don't they all do similar things anyway...? I wouldn't assume the additives are much of a cost driver to the production cost per gallon...
At some point it seems like it becomes a generic vs brand drug kind of thing..
#39
That's where I want to go to get my gas!!!
#40
93 Octane. I usually use Hess. No problems with it.
Of course... I live in Florida which our wonderful state government requires 10% ethanol.
By the way, the 'top tier' gas has been debated ad nauseum on the corvette forum and the consensus was that it is tied to paying to be on the list. In fact a couple of years ago (not sure about now), the so called 'top-tier' gas website was exactly the same format as one of the companies listed. Can't remember which one.
Of course... I live in Florida which our wonderful state government requires 10% ethanol.
By the way, the 'top tier' gas has been debated ad nauseum on the corvette forum and the consensus was that it is tied to paying to be on the list. In fact a couple of years ago (not sure about now), the so called 'top-tier' gas website was exactly the same format as one of the companies listed. Can't remember which one.
#41
Me too....
#42
So let me ask a simple question, since you are in the fuel business and probably have a more objective and knowledgable view than a lot of the opinions I see here..
You make the point that they all meet a defined standard, and other than the additives they are all refined pretty much the same way.. Other than octane level does it really matter what fuel brand you use as long as it isn't contaminated...?
I've always pretty much assumed the additives were more about marketing than any real value.. And assuming maybe the special additives do make a diff, in reality don't they all do similar things anyway...? I wouldn't assume the additives are much of a cost driver to the production cost per gallon...
At some point it seems like it becomes a generic vs brand drug kind of thing..
You make the point that they all meet a defined standard, and other than the additives they are all refined pretty much the same way.. Other than octane level does it really matter what fuel brand you use as long as it isn't contaminated...?
I've always pretty much assumed the additives were more about marketing than any real value.. And assuming maybe the special additives do make a diff, in reality don't they all do similar things anyway...? I wouldn't assume the additives are much of a cost driver to the production cost per gallon...
At some point it seems like it becomes a generic vs brand drug kind of thing..
Well, the short answer is that, yes, any fuel that meets the standards, in our case, 93 octane, will work just fine in your car, and no, the additives aren't just marketing, they do make a difference. If you buy a branded fuel you do get a little extra, but again each manufacturer has their own blend, and they utilize different ratios of additives. I do not mean to disparage unbranded fuel by any means, it's just that branded, high volume stations can usually be depended upon to give you a consistent product. Here is a for instance. We have refused to deliver and have refused to continue doing business with some unscrupulous unbranded customers that have asked our drivers to put 87 octane fuel in a 93 octane holding tank because they couldn't hold anymore fuel in their 87 tank, or wanted to increase their margins. We simply won't do it. Our drivers know that they will be terminated immediately for such actions. The customer isn't always right, and we have a reputation to maintain. This is the exception thankfully, but it is real. Lets face it, we have $100K cars and you are talking about a few cents savings. Treat your car right.
#43
So do you purchase any petrol after you get tanked?
#44
Why would I buy any booze or dope when the station attendants from the res pump your gas? They love filling up topless P cars
They always are telling me their gas (Chevron franchisee) has more alkylate and aromatics and less alcohols.
#45
What's the actual address. I may have to stop there next time I'm up north!