What to do between detailings?
#16
And sorry to push my luck on questions for all of you, but I have a 3m clear bra on the hood and front (only partial) of the car. Does the advice on anything change because of that?
Thanks everyone. This has been a real education. Again, I don't mind - indeed I like - taking a couple hours out every other weekend or so and washing the car. My back does not like it, but I do. But I want to leave the "details" to those who are detail oriented, while keeping the car looking great.
I appreciate you all not judging me for not being a perfectionist, at least in this, and for being so helpful. This really is a great web - community! I have said it before and, with my car's second birthday just around the corner, I mean it more every day, this has been one of the best parts of owning a great car! Thanks
Thanks everyone. This has been a real education. Again, I don't mind - indeed I like - taking a couple hours out every other weekend or so and washing the car. My back does not like it, but I do. But I want to leave the "details" to those who are detail oriented, while keeping the car looking great.
I appreciate you all not judging me for not being a perfectionist, at least in this, and for being so helpful. This really is a great web - community! I have said it before and, with my car's second birthday just around the corner, I mean it more every day, this has been one of the best parts of owning a great car! Thanks
#17
Wow - I love the look of the 50! Enjoy it when it comes in. My daughter is now 16, about to start driver's ed, and looking at my 991 in a whole new way - she will never find the keys! I did learn one great cleaning trick for kids and a 911 - take off their shoes as they get in!
Last edited by AG991; 02-23-2014 at 10:20 AM. Reason: typo
#18
Start small. A simple wash and spray wax will do wonders. Then start adding to the routine as you deem fit. You're already a huge step ahead of many by doing a proper service semi-annually.
For a routine wash, and keeping it around 30-45 minutes, here's what we use:
Wash
- get a good quality soap...P21S Bodywork Shampoo
- 5 gallon bucket...make sure it's new/clean and keep it as designated wash bucket
- All-natural australian lambs wool mitt...this will assure you don't get swirls and scratches
- Wheel cleaner and brush....P21S Gel Wheel cleaner and EZ detail brush...the two are a match made in heaven. You'll never have built up brake dust in your wheel barells again. A little goes a long way and a typical 1000mL bottle will last you at least 6 months
- Dry....Use a plush mf towel that 24x36
Spray Wax - my newest favorite product isn't even a wax. Nano technology has changed our industry. A spray nano coating called Reload will amaze you. Simple to use, amazing protection, excellent gloss, and smells good too
Must-have tool - CR Spotless DI Water filter. After you decide that routine above is something you'll enjoy, invest in the CR...no more water spots and it'll get you around 30 minutes with this routine
As for interior, all leather needs is to be hydrated. Just take the same towel you used to dry the car with, and wipe down the entire interior. If you use DI water, nice aspect will be no streaks.
Hope this helps
For a routine wash, and keeping it around 30-45 minutes, here's what we use:
Wash
- get a good quality soap...P21S Bodywork Shampoo
- 5 gallon bucket...make sure it's new/clean and keep it as designated wash bucket
- All-natural australian lambs wool mitt...this will assure you don't get swirls and scratches
- Wheel cleaner and brush....P21S Gel Wheel cleaner and EZ detail brush...the two are a match made in heaven. You'll never have built up brake dust in your wheel barells again. A little goes a long way and a typical 1000mL bottle will last you at least 6 months
- Dry....Use a plush mf towel that 24x36
Spray Wax - my newest favorite product isn't even a wax. Nano technology has changed our industry. A spray nano coating called Reload will amaze you. Simple to use, amazing protection, excellent gloss, and smells good too
Must-have tool - CR Spotless DI Water filter. After you decide that routine above is something you'll enjoy, invest in the CR...no more water spots and it'll get you around 30 minutes with this routine
As for interior, all leather needs is to be hydrated. Just take the same towel you used to dry the car with, and wipe down the entire interior. If you use DI water, nice aspect will be no streaks.
Hope this helps
Moe,
I did a little reading - this Reload is remarkable stuff - I am not talking about how well it works - I will take your word for that and order some. I am talking about HOW it works and that it works at all.
The literature says it is "inorganic" which to me, as a former chemist, carries with it a lot of different meanings. Wax and synthetics are all polymers - plastic if you will. Some are of natural origin and some are not. But they are all based, in one way or another, on long chains of repeating units of carbon.
But this is different. It is sand or, more likely, very very small glass beads made primarily of silicon. People have long used silicon sprays for water proofing and silicon dioxide beads are found as a "glidant" in a great number of pharmaceutical products and they add lubricity - they make the powdered materials move along conveyors without sticking on there way to being compressed into tablets, for example.
This is what you are putting onto the car. It should improve shine - it is a micro fine sheet of glass! The question I have is why doesn't in scratch? One reason could be that it is very slippery by nature. But if you pushed it hard enough, it should still work like grit. Another possibility is that it does scratch the surface, but just is so fine a level, that we cannot detect it. I bet some of both are going on.
Is this a product you would ever put directly on a car or only as a sealing layer over a waxed car?
Thanks for pointing this stuff out - reading about it has been the most interesting part of my day (than again, I am at work!)
#19
Just so that you understand my confusion in this whole area, I like to frequent local places where I can. There is a nice guy in Lodi NJ who sells nothing but washing and detailing equipment. And his website said the following:
"Avoid silicone-based products as they are not beneficial to paint and may cause problems down the road. Ask any professional car painter their thoughts on silicone products and you will usually get a 30-minute tirade." How do I reconcile that with Reload - I am sure that the local guy was not talking about products with nanoparticles?
OK, now what? Makes me wonder if my dad was not correct, colgate palmalive and turtle wax using old cloth diapers! Oh well, if it is good enough for Moe...
"Avoid silicone-based products as they are not beneficial to paint and may cause problems down the road. Ask any professional car painter their thoughts on silicone products and you will usually get a 30-minute tirade." How do I reconcile that with Reload - I am sure that the local guy was not talking about products with nanoparticles?
OK, now what? Makes me wonder if my dad was not correct, colgate palmalive and turtle wax using old cloth diapers! Oh well, if it is good enough for Moe...
#20
Just tried:
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...h+35+ounces.do
Was surprised & will continue to use. Works very good!
For a quick perk-up between clay & wax jobs I use:
http://www.autogeek.net/pinnacle-sou...spray-wax.html
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...h+35+ounces.do
Was surprised & will continue to use. Works very good!
For a quick perk-up between clay & wax jobs I use:
http://www.autogeek.net/pinnacle-sou...spray-wax.html
#21
Just tried:
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...h+35+ounces.do
Was surprised & will continue to use. Works very good!
For a quick perk-up between clay & wax jobs I use:
http://www.autogeek.net/pinnacle-sou...spray-wax.html
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...h+35+ounces.do
Was surprised & will continue to use. Works very good!
For a quick perk-up between clay & wax jobs I use:
http://www.autogeek.net/pinnacle-sou...spray-wax.html
Thanks! I don't even like the sound of using clay. won't that kill your clear coat?
#22
The Spray Car Wash has lots of "lubricity" & with a thick micro fibre towel,
takes the surface film and dirt right off.
I was a non-believer in the Spray Wash till I tried it.
#23
No harm at all....clay takes the sediments off the surface of the clear coat - it does remove existing wax.
The Spray Car Wash has lots of "lubricity" & with a thick micro fibre towel,
takes the surface film and dirt right off.
I was a non-believer in the Spray Wash till I tried it.
The Spray Car Wash has lots of "lubricity" & with a thick micro fibre towel,
takes the surface film and dirt right off.
I was a non-believer in the Spray Wash till I tried it.
#24
Make sure you wash the car before doing the clay.
Have fun!
#25
Make sure you wash the car before doing the clay.
Griot's Garage Paint Cleaning Clay: Why and how should you use it? - YouTube
Have fun!
Griot's Garage Paint Cleaning Clay: Why and how should you use it? - YouTube
Have fun!
Griot's waterless wash. I am going to probably wait for everything else until after I get my car detailed next. When I wash with water, I will use the P21 that Moe recommended. I will look at the speed shine and I am also intrigued by the Reload nano-technology spray as well. I wonder if you can use them both, one after the other - speed wax followed by Reload?
My favorite wax has been P21. There are millions of them. But I have let the detail shop do the wax lately.
Either way, I can't wait for spring so I can actually do something!
#26
Hey AG, trust me on the glass towel thing. I've spent a fortune (cannot release that info because the big boss cannot learn the truth) experimenting around and NOTHING and I mean NOTHING works better on glass than KB Wypall. And for $25 bucks for 6 towels, you can't go wrong. You need two of course, one to spread product and the other to buff clean. Few things/products that I feel are absolute MUST HAVES in the detailing world, however these towels make that list. If you want to talk MF Towels we can but hold onto your wallet. haha
#27
One of the other MUST HAVES on my list is the nanoskin wash mitt. This is a high tech replacement for detailing clay. Once you try this, you'll never go back. I have the mitt, towel and 5.5" buffing pads for my Flex 3401. Claying the car would take me between 1-1.5 hours. I can do it now in 20 minutes while it's at the curb after a two bucket wash. OMG, this product is fantastic. Use their Glide lube which is a concentrate & dilute 1-7 which is clearly stated on the bottle.
http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-aut...ium-grade.html
http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-aut...ium-grade.html
#28
Griot's waterless wash. I am going to probably wait for everything else until after I get my car detailed next. When I wash with water, I will use the P21 that Moe recommended. I will look at the speed shine and I am also intrigued by the Reload nano-technology spray as well. I wonder if you can use them both, one after the other - speed wax followed by Reload? My favorite wax has been P21. There are millions of them. But I have let the detail shop do the wax lately. Either way, I can't wait for spring so I can actually do something!
To me is you nano coat and then the reload is just after washes to maintain the nano..
Nano is instead of wax
#30
One of the other MUST HAVES on my list is the nanoskin wash mitt. This is a high tech replacement for detailing clay. Once you try this, you'll never go back. I have the mitt, towel and 5.5" buffing pads for my Flex 3401. Claying the car would take me between 1-1.5 hours. I can do it now in 20 minutes while it's at the curb after a two bucket wash. OMG, this product is fantastic. Use their Glide lube which is a concentrate & dilute 1-7 which is clearly stated on the bottle. http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-aut...ium-grade.html