True that, but... with no handbrake, it does make starting off on a hill without rolling backwards a difficult chore for anyone who hasn't developed their heel & toe skills.

It would be nice if those of us who do have basic driving skills could disable it.

BMW has been doing the same thing (hill holder) for many years, and I prefer their implementation of it. You can't disable it on those cars either.

 

It would be interesting to know exactly what the incline sensor is, i.e. a simple 'mercury' switch sort of gizmo, a 'bubble' like that on a level, etc. Something has to tell the electronics that the car is on an incline. If that gizmo could be located, it would seem easy to put it in a position that it would never send the input that the car is on an incline...

 

With the introduction of the pathetic e-brake, it is an understandable feature (especially in a manual).
However, the design and functionality seems very clunky and inconsistent.

 

What makes it look so bad is stalling in a Porsche.

Might as well get bumper stickers that say "Mommy just bought me this so I'd get out, stop playing Nintendo".

 

I have this feature with my PDK transmission. You get used to it.

 

Knowing H/T is one thing, but removing a feature that we've known all our lives such as the hand brake is another.
I was a bit confused the first time I sat in the car. It felt like something was missing and nothing really gained performance-wise. They could have kept the hand brake, with advanced features like auto-release.

It requires a bit of faith to use the hill auto-brake, especially hard if one's not used to modern cars.

I say if you specify and configure a MT, Porsche can make the auto e-brake an option, with the hand brake standard.

 

Since you have PDK and don't drive a manual, this is a non-issue for you so there's nothing to get used to.
It's the same as it ever was: just press the gas pedal. Automatic transmissions don't fall back on hills so much.

When you drive a manual, a handbrake holds the car while you move your foot from the brake to the gas while engaging the clutch, so it doesn't fall backwards on an uphill.

 

Exactly! Fortunately I didn't stall, but revved the crap out of the engine (w/PSE on), before it finally released. Still, a shameful moment.

 

Agreed.. doesn't bother me any more, also i noticed that if I rev high it disengages before I let out the clutch.

 

I like the idea of it. I hate the execution. It needs to be less abrupt. You do get used to it so you don't over rev or stall, but it prevents you from making a quick acceleration and feeling confident.

 

On the 997.2: First I use to stall....Then On the second attempt with people behind angered, I would over rev and ride the hell out of the clutch ....After a few attempts or so I became use to it. I personally don't like it the feature

 

What do you want the car in front of you to have on a hill?

 

I hate that feature, too. The only way I can make it work is to wait one second after getting off the brake before letting out the clutch and giving it some gas. The system is too slow to react to clutch and throttle action. This is unnecessary. BMW, on my E60 M5, shows how to do it correctly. The brake releases the very moment I start driving off. Works perfectly every time. The updated brake hold software was installed in my car many months ago -- I couldn't tell any difference.

 

A competent driver !

 

Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on your perspective) the incline sensor, part of the PRIDS (Porsche Relative Inclination Detection System) works both ways - if the car is pointing downhill or uphill. So re-orienting the sensor isn't going to work. We'd have to find it and remove it entirely, hoping that it doesn't set a code (which I'm sure it would).







BTW, not to confuse anyone, I made that up. PRIDS. It's not real.



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