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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 05:36 AM
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2014 991 S - manual trans 'hold' feature

I just took delivery of my 50th Anniversay 991 Carrera S - 7 speed manual - and I absolutely hate the hill 'hold' feature. I can be assured of several stalls and impatient drivers behind me. I have only driven manual Porsches and have had many. I can get a lifetime from clutches as I am very smooth and gentle with the operation, but not with this seemingly 'hair trigger' hold feature. I did a search on this topic and found that earlier cars had a software update performed and the owners seem pleased. My car was an April/May 2014 build and the dealer says no updates are available. My real goal is not an update, but to somehow disable this feature. Can anyone help? Thanks!
 
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 06:17 AM
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update...

I am not at peace with this feature...simply drove to an incline and practiced several times (not in traffic with angry SUVs at my tail) and all is well. I still don't need the feature - and can't imagine any Porsche manual driver needing it either - but it is actually quite smooth with several practice sessions.
 
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The only time I found it useful is when parked on a hill and some jackass parked 2 inches off your rear bumper. Instead of using hand brake etc...
 
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At first I found it very intrusive but by now I don't even notice it. You just have to adjust for it, that's all. I've found it useful when on an incline in bumper to bumper traffic in NYC.
 
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The trick is to gently press the accelerator while releasing the clutch, otherwise you are guaranteed to stall. It seems that it will not release the hold without gas being applied.

Personally I hate it..
 
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Really s/b a way to disable. I've had other cars that had an on/off button.
 
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You will get used to it...it may even come in handy when you are on a very steep incline and some rude f#cker is right on your tail.

Practice and it will become evident that it's not such a bad feature given there is no mechanical e brake to help you on a very steep incline.

Good luck!
 
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dux

Personally I hate it..
Yup! I wish there was a way to turn it off...in my 997.2 I use to ride the clutch until I got use to it
 
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Thank the Millennials my friend. People who look forward to parking assist, perimeter vehicle notification, backup cameras and other electronics that try to make less-than-capable driver's feel more at ease on the road. Instead of learning to drive.
 
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Thank the Millennials my friend. People who look forward to parking assist, perimeter vehicle notification, backup cameras and other electronics that try to make less-than-capable driver's feel more at ease on the road. Instead of learning to drive.

True...
 
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At first I found it very intrusive but by now I don't even notice it. You just have to adjust for it, that's all. I've found it useful when on an incline in bumper to bumper traffic in NYC.
This. I hated it at first and asked the same thing here. After a few weeks, I completely forgot about it. You just need to peek down at the tach to see if it's engaged before driving off on an incline.
 
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Count me among those who hate it. It makes me look like an idiot every time.

Hell, I'm still struggling with the electronic brake. For one thing, I simply cannot seem to develop muscle memory for the switch for some reason and frequently push or pull the wrong direction. Then factor in the inherent delay, and I routinely bounce off the damn thing.
 
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I concur with OP - with 25+ years driving manual cars and motorcycles I never needed such a feature and was embarrassed to have stalled on an uphill.
The car doesn't like the quick engagement and amount of gas given an uphill situation and then does a microstall.
I guess the redeeming feature is that the car auto-starts in a moment and you do it a bit gentler but enough to release the auto brake.

It's a very strange feature to get accustomed to. I find this manual transmission to be over-assisted and defeats the purpose of a clutch at times, with this and the rev matching for downshifts.
While in Sport mode, the car h/t 's for you. It's almost as if it's just a manual in terms of the shifter but not so much the clutch.
Reminds me of tiptronic but with a clutch just to allow you to shift.

At low speeds were just going through the motions of rowing but the transmission doesn't seem to listen to clutch input. It feels as if it's either in or out.
I previously wrote about the muted feeling in non Sport mode. It's a very detached feeling without modulation.

It's hard to switch between my Miata to the 991 because of all the nannies; but are much more appreciated at harder, high rpm shifting as opposed to around the town driving.
 
Old Jun 19, 2014 | 03:49 AM
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I hate this feature. After 26K miles I still want to be able to turn it off. It is features like this that make you just want to scream!
 
Old Jun 19, 2014 | 04:30 AM
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Agree too. I wasn't even aware of this feature and freaked out trying to accelerate after a red light. Luckily the person behind me didn't rear-end me. I did look like an idiot though. I can only imagine what people were thinking.
 


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