Are things a little stale in Stuttgart??
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96redLT4,
As a 997.1 owner, you probably already know there are 2 supercharger kits available for your car.
That would be a great way to provide the upgrade you are seeking.
It may hold you over, until the hybrid-FI era falls upon us.
As a 997.1 owner, you probably already know there are 2 supercharger kits available for your car.
That would be a great way to provide the upgrade you are seeking.
It may hold you over, until the hybrid-FI era falls upon us.
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Does anyone else feel like this? I have had my car, a 997.1C2S since new in 2005. I love it but I think I am ready for a little upgrade. I went to the dealer and drove a 2014 991 base 7 speed, the only manual tranny I think that they had. I guess it was a little bit better than mine... I want something I can be thrilled about like I was when I took delivery of my car. I think everyone is a little disappointed in the GT3 rollout. There is the 918, but come on. I guess Porsche is having trouble keeping up with production demand for the Macan. I guess I'm thinking give me about 450 normally aspirated hp, in the new light chassis with a manual transmission and a great steering feel like mine. I had a patient one tell me 'I don't mind paying 30 dollars for a steak, but I want a 30 dollar steak!' Keeping mine for now.
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If you get to try a 991S or 9914S, with PDK, you might change your mind. Then again, if not, there are several other cars between the 991S and the 918:
991 Turbo, 991 Turbo S, 991 GT3 and the soon-to-be released 991 GTS. You could buy any 3 of those for less than one 918 and if you still think you'd have a stale garage then maybe Porsche is not for you.
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I had a 987.1 Boxster, then a 987.1 Cayman and now a 2014 991. I've had it 45 days and I can't stop driving it. It's PDK and I love playing around with the transmission. Just as much fun as a manual. I wish it was a little noisier, but other than that I have not a single complaint. Love it.
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Just ask.... All they can say is no.... My dealer will give me a car for just about as long as I want.... within reason....
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Give the PDK another chance? Which is it?
You have a 997S but you instead downgraded to demo your motor and drivetrain to the 991 Base and it left you underwhelmed? You're wondering why?????
Confused? So are we.
Sounds like you're having an apples & oranges issue and don't realize it.
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Does anyone else feel like this? I have had my car, a 997.1C2S since new in 2005. I love it but I think I am ready for a little upgrade. I went to the dealer and drove a 2014 991 base 7 speed, the only manual tranny I think that they had. I guess it was a little bit better than mine... I want something I can be thrilled about like I was when I took delivery of my car.
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OP, nothing stale in Stuttgart! .... You enjoy whatever floats your boat.
hawc, love the picture! Very nicely done.
I had a 987.1 Boxster, then a 987.1 Cayman and now a 2014 991. I've had it 45 days and I can't stop driving it. It's PDK and I love playing around with the transmission. Just as much fun as a manual. I wish it was a little noisier, but other than that I have not a single complaint. Love it.
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The mention of a complete revamp of the 991 by 2017 seems really far fetched.
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I don't see anything stale coming out of Stuttgart (although I've never liked the 996). With every new model is a step in performance (not talking just power, but agility and cornering). Just look at Nurburgring times as a great illustration of that. With every new model, base or S, the times get appreciably quicker. It has more to do with the chassis and brakes than peak hp differences.
What is stale to me is this constant belief the average car driver needs 450 hp, or a power kit you'll rarely if ever tap into. What you want is usable mid range hp with a good upper end punch, a taut suspension that well absorbs bumps, great brakes, and a stable platform. Every sports car in the lineup delivers in that regard, although the S is really the standard to measure.
I'd rather my high performance toy not be something brand new. The guy stuffing the 3.8 motor into the Cayman chassis has the right idea.
What is stale to me is this constant belief the average car driver needs 450 hp, or a power kit you'll rarely if ever tap into. What you want is usable mid range hp with a good upper end punch, a taut suspension that well absorbs bumps, great brakes, and a stable platform. Every sports car in the lineup delivers in that regard, although the S is really the standard to measure.
I'd rather my high performance toy not be something brand new. The guy stuffing the 3.8 motor into the Cayman chassis has the right idea.
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There has long been a rumor about a "960" that would slot in between the 911 and the 918.
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...stale in Stuttgart??
Obviously a purely subjective subject. However, the Macan is anything but stale and the dynamic capabilities of the various 991 iterations are clearly above the prior models. My 991 TTS was at the US dock yesterday, so I won't take delivery for a couple of weeks, but my test drives of the various 991's left no doubt for me. The 991 TTS is in another dimension from all cars that I have had. The next 911 style will almost certainly have a hybridized Turbo S that is likely to deliver significant gains in performance. Its price will reflect the performance gains vs the 991 versions.
I was inclined to think things had gotten a bit stale until the 991 and now the Macan. As to the MT vs PDK, there is little doubt that the PDK is the future, at least for performance cars. Yes, manufactures of some performance cars still offer MT's for what are certainly marketing-driven decisions.
I was inclined to think things had gotten a bit stale until the 991 and now the Macan. As to the MT vs PDK, there is little doubt that the PDK is the future, at least for performance cars. Yes, manufactures of some performance cars still offer MT's for what are certainly marketing-driven decisions.
