Makes me think I should take out the LI system and replace it. What do you think I can sell the LI for? I have the Quad HP from December 2012. Do you offer trade in pricing?

So tears here for the idiots who bought the K40. That outcome was highly expected.

 

I would love to find a true independent test. This radar industry is full of smoke and mirrors.

Reading up on the guy who ran this last test, he also is an installer and based in NJ. The winning company is also based in NJ. Coincidence, I don't know?? Just asking the question.

I'm just skeptical of the Radar Roy's, Radar Joe's, Dick's and Larry's.

This particular test didn't look too scientific and didn't change up any driving variables. I'm not a pro, but the sceptic in me is just asking the questions and noting consumer observations.

 

Oh, I forgot Radar Tom!

So what 10 everyday users showed up? What systems? Any video footage?

Don't be surprised by the skepticism. You know as well as I do all the "claims" out there. Look at what's going on in the exhaust 40HP promise category.

I think independent tests should be done. I just questioned it when I see the "Jersey" connection and seeing you are an installer as well. Could be biased? I don't know. It just has my "internal radar" going.

I just think there needs to be a bigger production and expanded test. I feel there should be! I don't want any bull**** claims either.

I'm just not sold on the neighborhood Jersey street. I was expecting Paulie Walnuts to drive by.

Hey... You ain't gonna laser me you Gavone!

 

It's a deal. I'll bring my guns too Goomba..

Two can play at that game my friend...

 

I had an Escort 9500ci with laser shifter that I installed myself on my prior Porsche. I never got a ticket in that car so I'm pretty sure they were working, especially that one time I came around that sweeping corner in the country at about 65 mph (in a 35 zone), the laser warning when off and there was a cop pointing a black 'gun' at my car. He looked very unhappy and I was pretty sure he would stop me because he could SEE that there was no way I was doing anywhere close to the speed limit. But just looked down at his laser gun a couple of times and gave me the stinkeye - I didn't stick around...lol

 

I have had Escort 9500 CIs in my cars for a few years. Have the latest shifters in my cars. My wife has the K40 in hers. That's only because the collision avoidance systems were giving her constant laser alerts (not sure if the new escort shifters fixed that).

Here is what I can tell you - the K40 is JUNK.

Your radar/laser unit is most useful as a radar detector. Most of the LEOs around here use Ka band guns. My escort warns me at distances where I have plenty of time to check my speed. The K40 gives you a warning about the same time that you can actually see the cop. Useless. It could have the greatest laser shifter in the world, but I am hit by radar 1000x more than laser.

As for the escorts laser shifters, I have been hit by laser about 6 times - mostly on the NJ Turnpike - and my shifters worked as advertised. Was hit at over 90 mph on the open highway. Forgot to hit the mute button to deactivate the shifters and got hit again, and again. When I rolled past the officer doing 55 mph, he shook his head at me. Each other time I was hit with laser, I was speeding. Not crazy fast, but big ticket fast. And the escort saved me each time.

Maybe I am lucky because the laser guns on the NJTpk are not the most advanced.

Between the Bel and the Escort radar units, I have read that the Bel is better. They are owned by the same company and share much of the same hardware. There is not much, if anything, between them that will make the Bel the obvious choice. Your decision on which of these two units to buy should really be focused on whether you want the best shifters or ones that seem to work just fine and are programmable.

Do your homework, and make sure that your installer has installed and integrated a Bel with AI Priority shifters. You want a neat install, and one that is seamless. The Escort is one-stop, integrated installation. The pieces all fit together and work together. I do not have enough information to know what the integration of the AI and Bel is (do you need to turn them on separately, can you control the volume of the alerts with one button??) I just don't know.

Good luck.

 

I didn't intend to keep jamming. I honestly did not even believe I was being hit because I did not see anything up ahead. It was the first time I had been hit. I know better now.

 

Anyone knows the difference in performance between Escort passport Max and Max2 other than Max2 just having additional Bluetooth connection?

 

RALETC is a completely independent testing group. We are not affiliated with any vendor. The 4 laser jammer manufacturers tested during the shootout were all contacted and asked to attend. Due to scheduling conflicts with Blinder and Laser Interceptor, AL Priority (being the only confirmed attendee) was asked specifically to not attend the event to avoid any bias. K40 was the only company that declined to attend. Yellowcab and I were the two primarily responsible for running the event and neither of us live in NJ. I personally traveled from Texas on my own dime to attend and ensure the tests were conducted appropriately. Each test was conducted with integrity and with the latest firmware available from each of the manufacturers.

Test Conditions:

1. All tests were conducted as if it were being performed by law enforcement. We too have certified lidar operators.
2. The vehicle was driven at a constant speed of 30 mph for each run. This makes it more difficult for the jammer as it is subjected to the lidar for a longer period of time.
3. Target points on the vehicle were consistent between the runs (DHL,CM,PHL). No trick shots
4. RALETC obtains their guns through the same channels as law enforcement so our guns are exactly the same as what is being used today. With the exception of the Stalker LR 3.5. This gun was used primarily because it very good at revealing deficiencies in the jammer heads due to excellent optics.
5. All jammer heads were measured from a control bracket to ensure level and squareness. The control bracket was installed on a level surface and measured using a digital angle and level tool.
6. Measurements were taken for weather and sun conditions to ensure minimal sun interference or weather anomalies (fog or moisture)

If you would like more information about the tests, please let me know and I'll be happy to show you more. We are conducting more events at the beginning of 2015 in Texas and in Georgia. If you would like to attend please sign-up on our website to witness for yourself.

 

I know this thread is a little stale, but I'm coming back to it in trying to make a decision.

I think I'm convinced on the Beltronics Sti-R Plus, but I'm still confused on what shifters I should (or can use with this)? I suppose I'm kinda in search of a "Radar Detectors/Laser Jammers For Dummys" book lol..

I reviewed the shootouts, but quite honestly I couldn't make heads or tails other than it seemed the AI Priority seemed to be best. But at the same time they don't seem to have tested all the shifters out there.

Also I'm not sure if to use the AIP shifters with the Beltronics.. Would I'd need to install them completely independently of the Radar detector as a parallel system. If that's the case forget it. Not interested in installing a non-integrated solution. Too much trouble... I'd rather have slightly inferior protection (not even sure if the dragon guns that seem so lethal are even used in california).

Any thoughts on LJ and the Beltronics STI-R would be appreciated.

 

So the answer is if I understand correctly you'd need to install the ALP as a completely different system with it's own indicators and controls etc..?

 

yeah, yeah I get that ALP is better and everything else is inferior....

However, in investigating further it looks like ALP has an integration module with STI-R.. What does using this module get me in terms of capability?

On the surface it would seem as if this is what I'm looking for.. I'm not looking to install the sensors and connecting them directly to STI-R.. Rather I'm fine with installing the ALP and it's control modules. I'm just trying to avoid two sets of user controls and indicators..

Based on what I'm reading, it would seem that by using the integration module I can control everything via the Beltronics user control..?

Or is it that the ALP module just allows you to connect the STI-R radar antenna to the ALP system directly?

 

I understand now.. Thank you for explaining....

 

I'm running a V1 with the AL Priority jammers. Couldn't be happier. Saved me twice in Ga. Once at 89, the other at 105. Well worth the investment!

 

I've had great success with the AL Priority systems for laser jamming coupled with the Bel STIR Plus for radar detection. I set up the ALP for unlimited Jamming so that it doesn't cut off for a minute after a certain period of time. I also use their pro mode which has a loud notification for when your car is physically being tagged and a lower tone just alerting you that you were recently hit. Also, I turn off the park assist modes.

A friend of mind actively participates in the RALETC tests here in Atlanta. They're doing one just about every month and have several of the newer guns like Dragoneye and Stalker XLR and the only thing that seems to win all the tests is the AL Priority. They've tested the guns on the Blinder, Laser Interceptor, Escort 9500Ci old and new, and the ALP.

The ALP and Laser Interceptor setup seemed to jam most effectively with the edge going to the ALP. Blinder didn't even alert to the new guns and the 9500CI old didn't jam but did alert. The new 9500CI with the "laser interceptor" sensors did alert and jammed partially but not effectively. I'll see if I can dig up the link he sent me showing the actual test results.