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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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New Information on upcoming 991 Facelift

Today's mail delivered issue #23 (10/30/2014) of the German car magazine, auto motor und sport. On page 12 the following information on the 991 facelift is reported:


The facelift will be premiered at the 2015 IAA in Frankfurt. Deliveries will start late that year as 2016 model-year cars.


The naturally aspirated engines in the Carrera and CS will be replaced by turbocharged ones, still six cylinders but with smaller displacements. Both engines will gain 15 hp. (No information on torque, which should be considerably higher than that of current engines -- at a sacrifice in engine response). Cayman and Boxters will become available with turbocharged 4-cylinder engines next year even before the 2015 IAA. These will become available for the 911 at the 2018 model change.


The only reason for these changes is the need for Porsche to meet ever-tighter future fuel efficiency and CO2 regulations.
 
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Wow. Turbo charged. Times are changing. It is a bit sad. I understand the "need" but the NA engines will be missed.
 
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Originally Posted by HansGT2
Today's mail delivered issue #23 (10/30/2014) of the German car magazine, auto motor und sport. On page 12 the following information on the 991 facelift is reported:


The facelift will be premiered at the 2015 IAA in Frankfurt. Deliveries will start late that year as 2016 model-year cars.


The naturally aspirated engines in the Carrera and CS will be replaced by turbocharged ones, still six cylinders but with smaller displacements. Both engines will gain 15 hp. (No information on torque, which should be considerably higher than that of current engines -- at a sacrifice in engine response). Cayman and Boxters will become available with turbocharged 4-cylinder engines next year even before the 2015 IAA. These will become available for the 911 at the 2018 model change.


The only reason for these changes is the need for Porsche to meet ever-tighter future fuel efficiency and CO2 regulations.
Hans, thanks for the heads up.... Since it's a German magazine I would be inclined to give the recent turbo charged engine rumors more weight...Guess the writing is on the wall folks!
 

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The Panamera S with the 3.0 TT and 420 HP was the first hint of things to come.
 
Old Nov 4, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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Macan S is a turbo engine as well. Yeah, It's coming across the whole line...
 
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Another page in the history books when naturally aspirated goes the way of the air cooled
 
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Say goodbye to high reving screaming motors and hello to mmmmmm.
 
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Say goodbye to high reving screaming motors and hello to mmmmmm.
I'll stick with my high revving screaming NA motor! Love the sound and driving experience.

I already own one of these, and don't need another! I get enough whizzing sound from it.
 
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Geez, what will be the only NA motor left in the future? The GT3?
 
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I wonder if they will use the existing Flat 6 lineup:

Base Carrera gets a Turbocharged version of the 2.7L
Carrera S gets a Turbocharged version of the 3.4L
 
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a real shame that the C2S will not be 530 Hp for 110 grand....
 
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a real shame that the C2S will not be 530 Hp for 110 grand....
this is Porsche , whose brand equity value allows it to charge more than say General Motors ...and in the same relative sense, no different from Ferrari charging more than Porsche ...it's how retailing has always functioned for all aspirational branded products .....from cars to luggage to fashion...to do otherwise for no reason to enhance consumer value is to destroy the brand name , as happened for example when many fashion houses like Dior and Gucci started selling cheap logo'd sweaters , belts and such in middle class department stores in the early 80s
 

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I am not a fan of Porsche exhaust. I have a PSE on my 991 2SC. Turbo will increase the Torque which will be more important than HP.
 
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Makes me feel good about my 991.1! Definitely won't be having new car envy now. It is sad for the brand though..

Whatever happened to the +1000hp all those magazines were quoting? Hah!
 


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