Introducing the solution for 991 wind buffeting noise: The AWE Tuning Foiler™ Wind Di
Check out his review. NOTE: Product shown in these pictures is pre-production.
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Thanks. Do you have plans to make a version that looks like the OEM part rather than CF?
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due to the extremely high cost of injection molding tooling, plastic would not have created much savings, if any. The savings in that scenario would have only come if this was a high volume product where the expensive up front tooling costs could have been amortized. But since we've decided to engineer this part for 991 owners by popular demand, due to the volume of production it would have resulted in a "high priced" plastic part rather than the carbon fiber piece.
That being said, the carbon finish we chose is matte - it blends in quite nicely. Here's a side shot of our currently-in-development 991 Turbo S. Note the subtlety of the piece in context. Once installed, you'll forget it's even there... until you open one window and notice how quiet the interior of the car is at speed, that is.
That being said, the carbon finish we chose is matte - it blends in quite nicely. Here's a side shot of our currently-in-development 991 Turbo S. Note the subtlety of the piece in context. Once installed, you'll forget it's even there... until you open one window and notice how quiet the interior of the car is at speed, that is.
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Just returned from my dealer who installed the Tuner Spoilers on my 911.
On the interstate at 85 mph the whole head banging buffeting thing is GONE.
Still plenty of wind noise but you can cruise with one or two windows down in any position and enjoy your car. Great for the track.
It completely baffles me that Porsche with their quality engineering elsewhere would allow this "defect" through to the customer. Maybe it raised the drag coefficient a tenth or so.
While I read the install instructions, I did not feel comfortable messing with my trim. Too expensive to replace if I screwed it up. My build date was August of 2012 and it did not have the aforementioned screw for the simple installation.
Both of my door panels had to be removed for installation. Took the dealer an hour to do this. It would have taken me all day.
Nonetheless, I am tickled with the product and they really look great on the car.
Fred S.
On the interstate at 85 mph the whole head banging buffeting thing is GONE.
Still plenty of wind noise but you can cruise with one or two windows down in any position and enjoy your car. Great for the track.
It completely baffles me that Porsche with their quality engineering elsewhere would allow this "defect" through to the customer. Maybe it raised the drag coefficient a tenth or so.
While I read the install instructions, I did not feel comfortable messing with my trim. Too expensive to replace if I screwed it up. My build date was August of 2012 and it did not have the aforementioned screw for the simple installation.
Both of my door panels had to be removed for installation. Took the dealer an hour to do this. It would have taken me all day.
Nonetheless, I am tickled with the product and they really look great on the car.
Fred S.
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Just returned from my dealer who installed the Tuner Spoilers on my 911.
On the interstate at 85 mph the whole head banging buffeting thing is GONE.
Still plenty of wind noise but you can cruise with one or two windows down in any position and enjoy your car. Great for the track.
It completely baffles me that Porsche with their quality engineering elsewhere would allow this "defect" through to the customer. Maybe it raised the drag coefficient a tenth or so.
While I read the install instructions, I did not feel comfortable messing with my trim. Too expensive to replace if I screwed it up. My build date was August of 2012 and it did not have the aforementioned screw for the simple installation.
Both of my door panels had to be removed for installation. Took the dealer an hour to do this. It would have taken me all day.
Nonetheless, I am tickled with the product and they really look great on the car.
Fred S.
On the interstate at 85 mph the whole head banging buffeting thing is GONE.
Still plenty of wind noise but you can cruise with one or two windows down in any position and enjoy your car. Great for the track.
It completely baffles me that Porsche with their quality engineering elsewhere would allow this "defect" through to the customer. Maybe it raised the drag coefficient a tenth or so.
While I read the install instructions, I did not feel comfortable messing with my trim. Too expensive to replace if I screwed it up. My build date was August of 2012 and it did not have the aforementioned screw for the simple installation.
Both of my door panels had to be removed for installation. Took the dealer an hour to do this. It would have taken me all day.
Nonetheless, I am tickled with the product and they really look great on the car.
Fred S.
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Installed mine yesterday. Pretty straightforward (luckily I have a 2014 Carrera S, with the exposed bolt heads, so no need to remove the door panels). Only issue was getting the little curved plastic mounting piece installed on one of them--the provided screw wouldn't fit easily into its provided mounting location on the backside of the deflector, and it stripped the opening, requiring me to Gorilla Glue the plastic piece into place. Then, it takes a bit of trial and error to get the car's torx bolt to line up with the plastic mounting piece, because at that point the deflector is already slid into the top hook mount, and the torx screwing-in process is blind.
Overall, though, looks like a quality piece. Very well-finished. Looking forward to trying it out tomorrow.
Overall, though, looks like a quality piece. Very well-finished. Looking forward to trying it out tomorrow.
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I installed mine today and while the results are nice it wasn't all smooth going. There was some inconsistency with the carbon fiber forming on the back side of the Foil and a couple bubbles on the face side of the Foil. A little disappointing but I'm the only one that will notice I suppose.
I noted the comments above and was very careful not to strip out the carbon fiber with the tiny self threading screw. You pretty much get one shot at it. This screw and the bracket it attaches need to be very tight or the bracket can easily move during installation. The downward motion required to hook the upper end of the piece, also puts pressure on the bracket and screw and if they move you will not be able to line up the larger self tapping screw from inside the car. So you want it to be as tight as you dare.
Also, the upper end mounting point, which is basically a carbon fiber hook which slips over a peg mounted on the car, is very thin and seeming fragile. This hook was not fully formed on mine and I was lucky that it didn't break off. I was quite careful in attaching it, which is a rather blind motion of pushing in then sliding downward.
A tip to make installation a bit easier: The Foil mounts against window rubber. This rubber is quite sticky and requires great force to overcome the friction against the Foil. I did a quick wipe of WD-40 on the rubber and this allowed the Foil to slide much easier into place. This makes damaging the mounting points less risky.
The hook on the back. This one was not fully formed. I hope it holds.
The end result. Looks sharp!
I noted the comments above and was very careful not to strip out the carbon fiber with the tiny self threading screw. You pretty much get one shot at it. This screw and the bracket it attaches need to be very tight or the bracket can easily move during installation. The downward motion required to hook the upper end of the piece, also puts pressure on the bracket and screw and if they move you will not be able to line up the larger self tapping screw from inside the car. So you want it to be as tight as you dare.
Also, the upper end mounting point, which is basically a carbon fiber hook which slips over a peg mounted on the car, is very thin and seeming fragile. This hook was not fully formed on mine and I was lucky that it didn't break off. I was quite careful in attaching it, which is a rather blind motion of pushing in then sliding downward.
A tip to make installation a bit easier: The Foil mounts against window rubber. This rubber is quite sticky and requires great force to overcome the friction against the Foil. I did a quick wipe of WD-40 on the rubber and this allowed the Foil to slide much easier into place. This makes damaging the mounting points less risky.
The hook on the back. This one was not fully formed. I hope it holds.
The end result. Looks sharp!
I installed mine today and while the results are nice it wasn't all smooth going. There was some inconsistency with the carbon fiber forming on the back side of the Foil and a couple bubbles on the face side of the Foil. A little disappointing but I'm the only one that will notice I suppose.
I noted the comments above and was very careful not to strip out the carbon fiber with the tiny self threading screw. You pretty much get one shot at it. This screw and the bracket it attaches need to be very tight or the bracket can easily move during installation. The downward motion required to hook the upper end of the piece, also puts pressure on the bracket and screw and if they move you will not be able to line up the larger self tapping screw from inside the car. So you want it to be as tight as you dare.
Also, the upper end mounting point, which is basically a carbon fiber hook which slips over a peg mounted on the car, is very thin and seeming fragile. This hook was not fully formed on mine and I was lucky that it didn't break off. I was quite careful in attaching it, which is a rather blind motion of pushing in then sliding downward.
A tip to make installation a bit easier: The Foil mounts against window rubber. This rubber is quite sticky and requires great force to overcome the friction against the Foil. I did a quick wipe of WD-40 on the rubber and this allowed the Foil to slide much easier into place. This makes damaging the mounting points less risky.
The hook on the back. This one was not fully formed. I hope it holds.
I noted the comments above and was very careful not to strip out the carbon fiber with the tiny self threading screw. You pretty much get one shot at it. This screw and the bracket it attaches need to be very tight or the bracket can easily move during installation. The downward motion required to hook the upper end of the piece, also puts pressure on the bracket and screw and if they move you will not be able to line up the larger self tapping screw from inside the car. So you want it to be as tight as you dare.
Also, the upper end mounting point, which is basically a carbon fiber hook which slips over a peg mounted on the car, is very thin and seeming fragile. This hook was not fully formed on mine and I was lucky that it didn't break off. I was quite careful in attaching it, which is a rather blind motion of pushing in then sliding downward.
A tip to make installation a bit easier: The Foil mounts against window rubber. This rubber is quite sticky and requires great force to overcome the friction against the Foil. I did a quick wipe of WD-40 on the rubber and this allowed the Foil to slide much easier into place. This makes damaging the mounting points less risky.
The hook on the back. This one was not fully formed. I hope it holds.
Absolutely want to look further into them.
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Will do. Thanks for taking a look at them.
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The AWE Foiler WORKS!
I installed mine over the winter and really put it to the test yesterday for the first time.
At Pocono Raceway I was routinely near 145-150 mph lap after lap all day and there was NO BUFFETING AT ALL. I was amazed at the difference compared to my past experiences with much lower speeds at tracks like Lime Rock.
The AWE Foiler gets an A+ from me. Thank you, guys!
(I posted the same thing as below in a more recently active (but older) thread and then realized that it wasn't the "official" introduction thread. I apologize for double-sharing, but I was so impressed with this little product that I had to post in the right place!)
I installed mine over the winter and really put it to the test yesterday for the first time.
At Pocono Raceway I was routinely near 145-150 mph lap after lap all day and there was NO BUFFETING AT ALL. I was amazed at the difference compared to my past experiences with much lower speeds at tracks like Lime Rock.
The AWE Foiler gets an A+ from me. Thank you, guys!
(I posted the same thing as below in a more recently active (but older) thread and then realized that it wasn't the "official" introduction thread. I apologize for double-sharing, but I was so impressed with this little product that I had to post in the right place!)
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