What do you think of this 2013 C4S Cabriolet with 2800 miles on it? How much would you offer/pay for this car? Thanks

176 - Sport Exhaust System
427 - 20-inch Carrera Classic wheel
446 - Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest
487 - 7-speed Manual Transmission
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
640 - Sport Chrono Package
672 - Navigation Module
748 - Electric folding exterior mirrors
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
970 - Two-tone leather interior
BL - Leather interior in Black/ Luxor Beige
N4 - Dark Blue Metallic
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
P3A - BurmesterĀ® Audio Package
P3E - Premium Package Plus
UN1 - Online Services

 

Original sticker price?

Porsche Certified Pre owned warranty?

What are they asking for it?

All factors that would help determine a current market value.

 

Private? Dealer? Part of the country?

Any accidents on CarFax?

 

Porsche dealer has the car listed for 109,900. Don't know original sticker yet. CPO'd. Clean Carfax. Car is in the Northeast

 

I'm thinking it's around a 125-128K sticker.

They should be able to get that to you easily.

109K is way too much!!

I would have thought you'd be at 95K tops. Plus a convertible in the northeast in February! Not exactly flying out the door.

 

I agree with you completely.

 

Offer them 95K or keep looking. There's a a lot of cars for sale out there.

Plus keep in mind, when looking at sticker prices it's not like they sold for that much originally. They sold for at least a 5 to 8% discount.

 

Here is what Manheim says for 2013 C4s cab:

Feb 9 - Feb 16 2015
Above Average Below Mar 2015 Feb 2016
Auction $97,000 $91,000 $86,000 $90,000 $73,000
Est. Retail $105,000 $101,000 $98,000

 

Isn't hard to price without knowing the options on those cars?

 

Sounds like a nice car, mileage is right, not too over optioned. Mid 90's sounds right.

 

A 2013 C4S cab with 2.8K,....don't think you will get it in the mid-90s' unless it sits for a long time. The asking price is pretty fair in my book.

With any Porsche condition and mileage is everything. I've seen cars with 3K miles on them that were all scratched up inside and out,...and some that look perfect. You can probably find a '13 C4S cab for less money, but most will have more miles and may not be CPO'd.

My bet is low $100s or high 90's if very lucky. Spring is right around the corner and they won't mind hanging on to it a bit longer if just in.

 

If the car is in the northeast you should be able to do quite a bit better than $109k. With the beating we've been taking this winter, I bet dealers aren't moving too many cabs.

 

I'm going to suggest that a fair market price is not reflected by what people write on Internet forums, but rather what cars are actually selling for out in the real world. It's all nice and fine to say that "it's worth 95 at auction so you shouldn't pay more than 98" but the reality is that 95 at auction, plus fees, plus transport, plus CPO, plus reconditioning (fixing dents, curbed wheels, new tires, polishing, etc.), plus a fair profit, puts the car much closer to 109 than 98.

My local dealer (as do most, I'm sure) sells more used cars than new cars, and they make more profit on the used ones.

To determine a fair price, look to see what these cars are selling for. If they are all selling for 109, then 109 is a fair price. Most options do not retain their original value and mean little when it comes to wholesale pricing.

That's my opinion, and it's worth roughly twice what you paid for it.

 

Couldn't agree more with all you've written. Not that I know anything about the value of a used C4 in the northeast -- I'm just commenting that internet commentary nearly ALWAYS sounds like this, throwing out prices that are not realistic and that the dealer isn't interested in selling for. I'm certainly not saying 109 is the right price, but I doubt the dealer is coming off $14,000 on this car either. I'd be surprised if anybody -- the OP or anyone else -- walks out with it for less than $103k. Remember -- it only takes one person to walk in, love the car, offer them 105, and walk out with it. Everybody (in fact, MOST people) doesn't go on the internet to ask Six Speed or Rennlist what they should pay. At most they look at some KBB type pricing service, which will probably align with the dealer's ask. If not, then sure, you should at least get them down to the Dealer Pricing in KBB.


Most people, in fact, don't do any research at all -- they assume the dealer has some built in slop, they offer less than the amount the dealer is asking, they meet him somewhere in the middle, and everybody leaves happy. Especially on a six-figure used car. It's not like somebody's going hungry if they pay 109 vs. 105 or 95.


Again, I'm not saying who's right, etc. -- just speaking of the reality of late-model used Porsche dealer pricing.


Cheers, and good luck!


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