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Old May 4, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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C2S or C4S?

I am looking to upgrade from my c2 (997) to a (991) S model. Low miles and condition are very important to me. I came across a C4S that i want to consider however i'd like to get some feedback on the "4".

This is a weekend car - less than 5000 miles per year, and i dont use it in the rain. is the "4" needed or shall i hold out for a c2S.

ALso is the driving experience different, feel of the steering, etc?

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Old May 4, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Living in NY I would think you want a 4 model. I have the 991 C4S and love it. I don't drive it in the snow but I wanted the wider body and that taillight was a must have for me.
 
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Since you don't drive it in the rain, I assume no snow either. So for road conditions, no need for the "4". However, you do get the wide body with the 4, which in my opinion looks nice. I think a lot of buyers get the 4 just because of the wide body. I held out for a 991 GTS so I got the wide body without all wheel drive. I also had a 997 GTS, so I am a sucker for the wide body. If the wide body doesn't matter that much to you, I would get the Carrera S.
 
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4S, Do it for the monster grip on dry pavement.
 
Old May 4, 2015 | 04:06 PM
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Alright...I can actually chime in with some legitimacy here.

I was in a similar situation as you. I knew I was getting into an S model with PDK but was torn about spending the extra$ on a 4. Let me tell you now...worth every last penny.

The WB style and center taillight is great to just look at but the greatest part is you can really feel the awd on the roads.

The car drives with so much confidence and security and frankly I like that it's rarer than the carrera and carrera s.
 
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Go with the 4. I drove my last one in rain all the time never worried. Plan on driving my 2014 in the rain and if I get stuck at work one day and it snows I will drive it home in snow. That's the confidence I have in this car. In Germany people drive these thinks all year round. They really are quite robust and hold up very well.
Of course not suggesting you drive it in 2 feet of snow, but it will get you home in a couple of inches no problem.
 
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Performance-wise: Not much different in the dry, but in the wet, that's where you really see the difference. Look-wise: the 4S is also more rare.

However, if this is just a weekend car and you're not pushing it at the track, the S is the more sensible choice.
 
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C4S .. my 2nd one ..
 
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I owned a 2007 997 C4S and chose a 991 2014 C2S instead . Price was not a "driving issue" pardon the pun.

IMHO a C2S is a tad more nimble. My C4S was nose heavy. However, if you intend to put snows on then I would choose the C4S. My C2S handles great in very heavy rain and on wet roads. Rear engine drive was a stroke of genius from the original Porsche engineering.

You will get many opinions on this topic and there are old threads to search.

Good luck...you can't miss with a 991
 
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Cannot comment on the 991 version, but: Of five I've owned, three have been C4S's.
Better looking, great traction in ANY setting, and less common.
Just my two cents' worth.
 
Old May 4, 2015 | 09:29 PM
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There's s general misconception that the "4" is designed for traction on wet and snow, and that's not really why Porsche did it, though salesmen might pitch it in the showroom. It's designed to pull you around a corner at amazing speeds up to the limit of tire adhesion. Put a set of R-Comps on a "4", get them good and hot and even the most jaded of trackster drivers will marvel at the incredible pulling power of the "4" when taken for a ride. One of my favorite things to do was grab one of my BMW pals with the M3's and M5's and take them for a hot lap through at VIR a in my 993 C4S. They would scream like little girls dropping through Hogpen at speed, sure they were going to die in a flaming rollover. We would both be laughing like schoolboys coming into the main straight and they just could not believe the grip.

Yes, the All Wheel Drive does carry more weight, and complexity, and a higher price tag. If I were buying a coupe I'd get the 4S, because it will rock your world on track day. In the convertible, with only half the chassis stiffness it doesn't make any sense to me, so I have C2S now for that reason - because my current ride is a cabriolet. I could care less about the wider butt on the car - all that really does is add more air drag at speed and take a few mph off the top end.
 

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Thank you for the responses, i am going to wait for C2S Cab. Problem now is finding the right car. Even though these cars have less than 10k miles, everything i looked at is pretty beat up.
 
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To me it was more the look of the C4S than anything else. I also like the extra security of sticking as I go around a corner that the 4 provides.

As far as comparing I never really did.
 
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Originally Posted by rocket94
Thank you for the responses, i am going to wait for C2S Cab. Problem now is finding the right car. Even though these cars have less than 10k miles, everything i looked at is pretty beat up.
What are you looking for? Manual? PDK? Particular options? Price Range? Mileage? This is a good place to ask around ......
 


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