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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Of course I am serious this is exactly what I would like to do to my car when I get some extra dough!
If thats the case then good luck. But you better start looking for $$$ elsewhere
 
Old Oct 7, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
800 hp is far from not driveable on the streets. I took my 785 rwhp corvette on a mountain run for a whole day, about 400 miles covered, with cliffs to my right or left, and had no worries, and it was wet, and I'm not crazy.
And I'd be willing to bet that you never used more than 300rwhp on that day... My maggied Z06, with a conservative 475rwhp with meth, would spin the 315 Falken Azenis on the parkway at 60mph in the DRY...perfect daily-driver if you ask me. But 600/700/800hp is just for bench racing or bragging rights, or...and let me spit the bile from my mouth before I say this..." roll-ons "....pthew...

As many have said before, having 800hp and USING 800hp is another story. And for most people who don't have hours on a track, MOST PEOPLE, anything over 500rwhp just puts them "four-off" sooner.

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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Why do you run meth at that power level Ace996?? What are you running for boost, 3-4 psi??
 
Old Oct 7, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Why do you run meth at that power level Ace996?? What are you running for boost, 3-4 psi??
Sorry for the off-topic...
The maggie was pushing 7.5-8lbs of boost...any highr would be pushing it for roadcourse use. And the meth was used to eliminate heat-soak on the roadcourse...intake temps went from 140degs to ambient, or under ambient. There's no intercooler in the world that can reduce intake temps as well as meth/water....none. The vapor in teh combustion chamber also does wonders for supressing detonation, allowing more boost/timing than would be allowed with pump gas. The meth also cleans the combustion chamber, valves, pistons.

I could have pullied the car up to 550rwhp, but to tell the truth...it wouldn't help me get around a roadcourse any faster. Having 475rwtq at 3200rpm, 400rwtq at 2500rpm, was a handful and I didn't want to run r-comps all the time. Keep in mind, the roots-supercharger was instant response...no lag...so the throttle needed VERY careful application in the turns. For anything other than the straights, a stock Z06 would have been easier to drive fast, as USING the power or being able to use the power is another story...you dig?

And meth...it's like running racegas all the time, but with 93 in the tank. Really, imagine NO HEATSOAK...ever. I've since sold that car for an '06 STI and currently run meth/water on that....great results, too. I would never have a forced-induction car without meth/water...for many reasons.

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With the right tires, RWD TT's with big power hook extremely well on the street. Far better than front-engine, RWD cars do. My 700 rwhp Supra on BFG DR's hooked nothing like my RWD 996TT does.

I drive my car at 800+ rwhp on the street all of the time. And I drive her HARD...from dead stops and from slow or fast rolls. She hooks wonderfully.

Would I recommend that most people with modified TT's convert their cars to RWD? No. Absolutely not.

Would I have my car any other way? No. Absolutely not.

 
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Originally Posted by ace996
And I'd be willing to bet that you never used more than 300rwhp on that day... My maggied Z06, with a conservative 475rwhp with meth, would spin the 315 Falken Azenis on the parkway at 60mph in the DRY...perfect daily-driver if you ask me. But 600/700/800hp is just for bench racing or bragging rights, or...and let me spit the bile from my mouth before I say this..." roll-ons "....pthew...

As many have said before, having 800hp and USING 800hp is another story. And for most people who don't have hours on a track, MOST PEOPLE, anything over 500rwhp just puts them "four-off" sooner.

Be safe,
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I agree for track use much over 550 rwhp is useless. As I posted in another thread when I was at Grattan with 640 rwhp, AWD and Sport Cup tires I was spinning all four tires in about 3 corners.

Big difference in being able to get the power down with an AWD Porsche turbo with all the weight over the rear tires vs a front engine Corvette.

Now for the street I could use more power, as I am already used to the GT700. It would be ideal to just have a track setting at 600 rwhp and a street setting (with some more work to my car) at 900 rwhp!

That would be fun!

 
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Originally Posted by buddyg

Now for the street I could use more power, as I am already used to the GT700. It would be ideal to just have a track setting at 600 rwhp and a street setting (with some more work to my car) at 900 rwhp!

That would be fun!

A great idea...and yes, that sounds like some real fun!!!
 
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900 HP street setting.?.... I thought I was bad!

Anyone use an eboost 2 and switch to external wastgates???? You can then set boost per gear(1st-6th) and rpm!!! I love this feature on mine(Chevelle). You can have your cake and eat it too! It allows you to set max boost in each gear so the power is useable.
I need to get a TT P-car and start modding, this is driving me nuts!!
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
With the right tires, RWD TT's with big power hook extremely well on the street. Far better than front-engine, RWD cars do. My 700 rwhp Supra on BFG DR's hooked nothing like my RWD 996TT does.

I drive my car at 800+ rwhp on the street all of the time. And I drive her HARD...from dead stops and from slow or fast rolls. She hooks wonderfully.

Would I recommend that most people with modified TT's convert their cars to RWD? No. Absolutely not.

Would I have my car any other way? No. Absolutely not.

I had my TT Gallardo(750 rwhp) converted to RWD and added a pair of BFG dragRs as well. They hook up nicely and the car can be driven hard/to the limit, as long as it is pointed strait. But overall handling is not as good. I will soon be returning the Gallardo to awd.
 
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Drag radials are not made for handling. They're made for hooking in a straight line. If you want a tire that does both...r-compounds are the optimal choice.


IRT to your Gallardo, any car that's converted from AWD to RWD will not handle as well as it did stock unless you change/adjust the suspension accordingly. Corner-balancing is especially important.
 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Drag radials are ot made for handling. They're made for hooking in a straight line. If you want a tire that does both...r-compunds are the optimal choice.


IRT to your Gallardo, any car that's converted from AWD to RWD will not handle as well as it did stock unless you change/adjust the suspension accordingly. Corner-balancing is especially important.
i did both, i had custom motons and corner balanced (by moton/ ray) but ,its no longer the issue of suspension. for me its driver error. its the boosting, that is too hard to modulate, even with a progressive(boost adjusted per gear) boost rate. it just spools up too quick. well, you obviously are a much better driver than i cause i dont find it to make any sense for me, its fun but thats it.
 
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Originally Posted by Don Relentless
i did both, i had custom motons and corner balanced (by moton/ ray) but ,its no longer the issue of suspension. for me its driver error. its the boosting, that is too hard to modulate, even with a progressive(boost adjusted per gear) boost rate. it just spools up too quick.
Ah...I understand now. Makes more sense.

well, you obviously are a much better driver than i cause i dont find it to make any sense for me, its fun but thats it.
I'm not saying that I'm a better driver at all. I have no doubt that there's a difference between the way a Gallardo responds to RWD compared to how a 911 Turbo responds.

Anyway, at least you gave it a shot. Now you know for sure that staying AWD on a Gallardo is what works best for you.
 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
With the right tires, RWD TT's with big power hook extremely well on the street. Far better than front-engine, RWD cars do. My 700 rwhp Supra on BFG DR's hooked nothing like my RWD 996TT does.

I drive my car at 800+ rwhp on the street all of the time. And I drive her HARD...from dead stops and from slow or fast rolls. She hooks wonderfully.

Would I recommend that most people with modified TT's convert their cars to RWD? No. Absolutely not.

Would I have my car any other way? No. Absolutely not.


With what kind of tyres was this? Street legal?

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