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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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PCCB-> MOV´IT-CER on GT2?

Only recently joined the forum, but I have followed discussions and searched for usefull Porsche info for some time. Must say the level of knowledge is high.

Now to my problem or oportunity as i see it

I'm currently running PCCB gen 1 on my GT2, I do a fair bit of autocrossing and track racing with the car.
The rotors look fine at the moment. The pad consumption is rather high but I'm running with softish P40's now (only pads Porsche had in stock). Eventually I will have to switch to aftermaket rotors so I started looking around.
The local Porsche shop offered to replace the rotors to PCCB gen 2 for about
6.5k USD each.

Racebuddes have switched to Alcon steel ones but I like the ceramics so far, I'm not willing to spend the money for gen 2 as there are other goodies that the money can go into

Stumbled across a link to brakemanufacturer Movit (on a jap car forum), and they offer replacement ceramic rotors for Porsche at under 50% of the cost of the PCCB ceramic rotors.

Does anyone have experience with running the Movit ceramics on a track Porsche?

Movit themselves claim both lower weight and longer life expectancy compared to PCCB when tracking the car.
 
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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They look like a serious piece of equipment.



They are selling them on the NSXPrime board and there is some additional info there if your interested...

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89608
 
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Serious piece that is.
 
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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It looks like solid breaks, no doubt. It was on the NSX board i stumbeled across the initial info so I e-mailed Movit i Germany for more info on what they offer for Porsche
They offer a PCCB replacement kit, but I have no independent info from any P-car owners who might have tried the kit.
The manufacturers them selves claim that lots of Porsche owners are turning to them to replace the PCCB's.

Any info from people who have used them is welcome.
 
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They are saying the Gen II PCCB has gone 85k or something crazy or so and not worn a bit on a test GT3 (which I assume had to have been on the track) If this is true, then you'll get much more wear out of them than you would the other rotors.


I think that is B.S., but it has been claimed nonetheless.
 
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Some info for you here: http://www.systemst.com/products/product-overview

And further discussions here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...p?h=0&t=436594

Certainly looks like a good alternative to PCCB, i'm just waiting for a little more feedback on longterm use etc. before I part with my hard earned.

HTH.

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That pad looks awfully snall compared to Oem
 
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Fivelitre, Thanks!
I had not seen that thread on pistonheads.

It seems that Koenigsegg chose these discs for the CCX so they can't be all bad

It will be interesting to see p-car owner's experienece of the discs as more switch to them.
 
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Fivelitre, Thanks!
I had not seen that thread on pistonheads.

It seems that Koenigsegg chose these discs for the CCX so they can't be all bad

It will be interesting to see p-car owner's experienece of the discs as more switch to them.
I have Movit break (steel rotor) in my Audi S4. The quality of Movit is nice and the break modulation is good thus I assume its ceramic break may be on the par with any of its alternative. However, the downside is to switch Movit break, you have to abandon factory 6 pot caliper.
 
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I have a 2003 TT with PCCB. Is this Gen 1 or 2? So, I will have to pony up $6500 for each new rotor?

Holy ****, I hope not.
 
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Somewhere between $4500 and $5800 per rotor is the Porsche price for PCCB. Far as I am concerned a real wart for Dr. Ing hc F's company. People tend to hoo-hah at the cost of pulling engine out of Ferraris to replace the cam belts. Cost about same as one pccb rotor.
 
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Originally Posted by superchicken
Somewhere between $4500 and $5800 per rotor is the Porsche price for PCCB. Far as I am concerned a real wart for Dr. Ing hc F's company. People tend to hoo-hah at the cost of pulling engine out of Ferraris to replace the cam belts. Cost about same as one pccb rotor.

I was told by the Porsche shop that if you are going from gen 1 to gen 2 PCCB the price will be higher as the gen 2 rotors only price was ex bells and that they would not put gen 2 rotors on my gen 1 bells. New gen 2 bells would some hundred dollars extra.
 
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Originally Posted by S4corrado996TT
I have Movit break (steel rotor) in my Audi S4. The quality of Movit is nice and the break modulation is good thus I assume its ceramic break may be on the par with any of its alternative. However, the downside is to switch Movit break, you have to abandon factory 6 pot caliper.
Out of topic,dude,do I know you ? a Santorin Blue widebody s4 ?are you on audiclub.tw as well ? I go by garys4 on that forum but been away for a long long time though
 
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Out of topic,dude,do I know you ? a Santorin Blue widebody s4 ?are you on audiclub.tw as well ? I go by garys4 on that forum but been away for a long long time though
I know I just want to say Mov' it is a pretty good alternative anyway!
Hey! nycsurfer I am not in the US. I used to study in state though! I am from Taiwan. My S4 is black and 996tt is blue. I was once on AW a lot but never speak in AW.
 
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Originally Posted by S4corrado996TT
I know I just want to say Mov' it is a pretty good alternative anyway!
Hey! nycsurfer I am not in the US. I used to study in state though! I am from Taiwan. My S4 is black and 996tt is blue. I was once on AW a lot but never speak in AW.
oh,my bad ,I thought you are someone I know since I grew up in Taiwan
 


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