Thanks for the response Kevin! I know you said you make the decsisions on the programming- but who physically programs the software for UMW- if its you physically doing it right there on the spot in house-awesome (and impressive) but if the file is sent out, where do the decisions that you make get programmed. Please dont take this as an attack on you or your company- there are alot of UMW guys on the boards and you have had a lot of positive response- I am only trying to do some homework on programming (as I am looking to do business with one) since a lot of tuners tout programming as there own and turns out their proprietary software is programmed by some other company. Once again, thanks for the response.
Respectfully,
OWM

 

I don't know programing from a whole in the ground, but I know when I step on the gas of my Kevin tuned turbo, that, is well worth what I paid for it. Plus Kevin spent the time explaining how it all works, so a non mechanic, like myself, can understand it. First class customer service. He tunes what he drives.

 

I see where OWM is going with this and I don't think it's an unreasonable question. Basically, is there a third party doing the actualy code writing and who are they. If this question is somehow considered as a confidential intellectual property issue, then I guess Kevin will say so....but in reality, there should be no heartburn over disclosing who does the actual coding. At least that's my take on it.....Others might consider it as "WTF it works and that's all I care about".

 

Top Secret guy from Switzerland is used for UMW code.
Word is that Xxxxxxx codes have been copied and then tweaked a little.

NO ONE will ever tell you this though.

The result seems to be very good packages, but to answer your original question,
there is only one that does their own programming in house and he did my car.

MK

 

WoW, I had know idea Pat tuned your car, small world

Christian

 

The Top Secret guy is from Mexico, he go's by the name "Pepe"

Yes they are good! but please, Let's not start this **** again!

 

Who cares if Kevin actually has the laptop tweaking the tune himself, if he is involved with the final product and say of how it performs that is all that really matters. At the end of the day he has a very solid program and system going for him that works.

Most importantly he answers the phone and if he doesn't he calls back the same day, not to mention if you have an issue/question he can be reached pretty much 24/7 from my experience. Not another tuner on this forum can say that that I am aware of

Christian

 

Thank you all for the input, I know that when discussing a tuners programming it can get touchy. Most come right out and say who programs the software. Revo, Giac, FVD, Softronic, etc. usually disclose how the programming works, since the thread started out with FVD programming, their software gets read out via a cable and gets emailed to Germany and programed by software programers employed by FVD, who do nothing but their programming. Giac-the car car goes to a dealer facility and get programmed via byte shooter or the ecu is removed and programmed at GIAC by their programmers, REVO- though I am not competely sure how the process works is similar- I'm sure. Bottomline and point I am trying to make is that most companies let you know where the software is coming from and who does it- and I do understand the WTF, who cares-it works-it makes power-shut the F*ck up and drive response to my question. I am sure that if I called GIAC they would tell me exactly where the program gets done-same with FVD. FVD would give you the name of the guy who was doing it and his email address if their was a problem. Revo same deal- not top secret-somewhere in switzerland when in all reality the programming community is extremly small- as not just anyone can use one of the programs to code a bosch or siemans e.c.u. map- and do so correct. That is no knock on whoever is doing your programming and I am not making software comparisons against you or anyone else as I know the UMW guys (woodster, Wross996TT, you) are always on the forum and ready to jump on anything about you- good bad-or indifferent- even a thread about someone elses programming- as this thread started out about. This is understandable as 6 speed is important marketing and a bad rep. can turn on you real quick (which in a tuners case spells doom). Botomline, if you dont want to disclose who does your programming-thats ok-you dont have too, but I think that people who spend up to 3,000 dollars retail for programming, want to know who's doing it and where its being done-not it's my programming I do it then find out its done overseas. I am in the Porsche repair business and know that I would want to know where the software that I would pin a reputation on to make a living comes from and who's doing it. I imagine so would your customers or anyone else fortunate enough to drive one of these cars and have the money to spend on software. I look forward to your response and have put in my last two cents on the matter as I will post no more regarding this. I appreciate all your time
Respectfully,
OWM

 

What doe GIAC stand for exactly? I see that term used alot on the board.

 

This quote goes a long way towards showing your complete lack of knowledge as to who is in what tuners camp. Woodster may be the most anti-UMW member on this board and is firmly in the Protomotive camp, although from time to time he does throw a compliment in UMW's direction.Wross has UMW software but always calls a spade a spade regardless of his own tuning choices. Just out of curiosity...have you confronted Bill Gates to find out who the actual person(name, address etc) is that wrote Windows. I am sure that you are not satisfied with them saying it is a Microsoft product.....

GIAC stand for Garrett Integrated Automotive Corporation if I recall correctly.

 

Everybody knows Steve Jobs wrote Windows. Duh.

 

Now that is some funny sh*t.I hear Mark uses Evoms too!

 

KPG,

I am coming around...LOL!
UMW would be my second choice and maybe even first choice if I was close by.
I now would like to know who the other white meat is, because this is BS if
you pretend to have (or do have) knowledge and do not disclose who you are.
Shame on you, Porky!

MK

 

Let's cut him up & make some Roast pork , So he's not a Proto soldier ....

Good one Joe!!!


Tom

 

Is the OtherWhiteMeat chicken? I always thought it was pork........