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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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100mm mid 25mm tweeter will fit, which converts roughly to a 4" and 1". although i was very surprised by the factory speakers, they are pretty good. i don't know that i would replace them with mbquart separates. i would change the amp is it is way under powered for the setup.
Thanks. I believe you refer to the Bose setup. I have Becker Traffic Pro 4760 in a GT2 CS and no amps, no door or rear speakers. It sounds pretty bad as expected. I wouldn't start adding weight against the spirit of this car but some hi quality speakers in the dashboard and a very light weight amp like the MB Quart RAB 250 (1.4 kg) would be nice. What other speakers do you recommend?
 
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where did you run the wires threw exactly????? where is the opening on the firewall????
 
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Looks great
 
Old Dec 25, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Wow great wiring jobs on all these setups!
 
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i ran the wires through the big grommet behind the battery. Then i put in two 1/2" grommets near the amp (where it is a single layer of sheet metal). The wiring route on this car was particularly easy!
 
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Oh yeah in all my excitement, forgot to ask, what type of wires and cabling did you use, and where did you get it?

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it was a mixture of radioshack and stinger. The power & ground wires were stinger, the rest was radioshack. There are a couple things we should all be aware of:

1. the gauge of the wire and its flexibility is important - not its brand.
2. for RCA cables, a good quality radioshack cable is more than sufficient for the length of cable that we need in this type of car install.
3. the manner in which the stereo is installed is the most important. the guiding principles are:
a) don't create ground loops (short ground cable, isolate amp from the grounding body of the car.
b) select sufficient gauge for watts that you will draw.
c) isolate power, speaker and low-level wires from unshielded wires.
d) run equal length of wire for left & right speakers.

Hope that helps...
 
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Originally Posted by FlyYellow
it was a mixture of radioshack and stinger. The power & ground wires were stinger, the rest was radioshack. There are a couple things we should all be aware of:

1. the gauge of the wire and its flexibility is important - not its brand.
2. for RCA cables, a good quality radioshack cable is more than sufficient for the length of cable that we need in this type of car install.
3. the manner in which the stereo is installed is the most important. the guiding principles are:
a) don't create ground loops (short ground cable, isolate amp from the grounding body of the car.
b) select sufficient gauge for watts that you will draw.
c) isolate power, speaker and low-level wires from unshielded wires.
d) run equal length of wire for left & right speakers.

Hope that helps...
Awesome info, thanks!

Would twisted pair cables on the rca help with noise rejection? I mean, instead of standard rca cables?
 
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Sweet setup! I wasn't moving enough air with 8's, so I wemt with 10's. What do you think?
 
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Here is a close-up of the grommet Boris mentioned



Then you have to pass through another wall and you can use this existing grommet on the passenger side. I kept the power and speaker wires separated a minimum of 2".



When you do 3-way components up front, you must run an extra set of wires for the 4" mid range, as the door speaker uses the factory run and the dash only has one set of factory wires, which you should use for the tweeter. The additional wires required for the 4" mid range follow the path above and are very easy to route up into the dash area. The other wires that run along this same route are the RCA wires from the head unit.

Here is an overview of the general path. Like Boris said - this is relatively simple and is probably the easiest part of the entire install. The running of wires was very quick - speaker fitment is what takes the time. I would recommend having a dremel tool handy before you begin.

 
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How Would You Rate The Factory Bose Speakers? I Was Wanting To Run A Quality Aftermarket Amplifier, But Am Not Sure If They(bose Speakers) Can Handle Alittle Extra Power.... Please Inform.....
 
Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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I am no expert, but I don't think they will provide very good sound regardless of power, although I'm sure each component upgrade will offer some benefit. I had a high end system in my previous 993TT and the Boze sound was a huge downgrade. Boris seems to know a lot about this stuff - I'm sure he can explain.
 
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what a neat set-up!
 
Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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i would rate the factory bose speakers as pretty good! i would rate their crossovers as lousy! knowing what i know now - here's what i'd do:

a) use a sound deadening solution behind the factory speakers and remove capacitors.
b) change the crossover (buy a good 3 way crossover - very cheap!) If you go this route you want adjustable xovers. reason is the 3 way spekers are separated from one another and because the dash speakers are in a very bright location. so you really need to adjust the individual gains of each speaker to get a good sound.
c) tap into the factory wiring at the amp using .083" pins and wire the new crossover in
d) buy a new amp (the bose amp sucks!) and install it
e) add a subwoofer

as for cost - here's my estimate:
a) $20
b) $60
c) $2 (connectors at frys)
d) $300 for the amp i used
e) $350 for the sub box and jl audio sub

i suspect this very inexpensive setup will make a huge huge difference in the car! as for installation ease - this should take someone a couple hours.
 
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I heard the bose speakers are 1 or 2 ohm and will damage amps, and you shouldn't use regular speakers with a bose amp

Something about equalized speakers and amps working together too???
 


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